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Type 2 and oral meds

nkd

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
I have just been diagnosed as type 2 with high bp and my gp has prescribed meds for both. I am unsure if I should not just try diet first to see if I can get the diabetes under control that way. I've had two fasting blood tests, with both being in the mid to high 9's. I have an appointment this coming Wednesday with the practise diabetic nurse.

Would someone please offer some advice to this quandary?
 
Hi

Same as me! 4 weeks ago hi bp and fasting 6.1, bp was 160/100
Was told to do a 3 month diet and exercise plan before any meds.
Last week bp was 128/78.... Normal! As for the diabetes? Too early to say...I feel naff still but lost 12lbs with good diet, hope the more I drop the better I get?
Go for it, give it 100% for 3 months then see the doc, that's my plan.
What were your symptoms?
daz
 
Hi

Symptoms were tiredness, frequent pit stops and the little man not sticking around for long enough. Didn't even know that was a symptom till the doc told me :oops: :lol:
 
Hi nkd and welcome to the forum :) You should always take all meds prescribed for you by your GP. Later on he might decide that you can stop taking them. But it is his decision. You can always ask him at your next appointment if you can stop. What you can do now is to change your diet as well as taking the medication, which will increase your chances of getting your levels down considerably. You need to get those fasting levels down and your other levels during the day. I hope your DN will give you what you need to test your BGs on Wednesday.

Here is some general information about diabetes, written by the Forum Monitors, which sets out how you can look after your diabetes which I think you will find useful. It includes advice on diet and testing which are very important for you.

Here is the advice that Ken and I, as Forum Monitors, usually give to newly diagnosed Diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

For more information on CARBOHYDRATE see here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20306

This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!

For TIPS FOR STRIPS see here:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19002#p173253

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l...(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals......................... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do at least 30 minutes moderate exercise a day, it can be split into 10 min sessions to start with. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Finally a few QUESTIONS TO ASK AT DIABETES CLINIC.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091



Sue/Ken.
 
Thanks Daisy1

I think I'm going to find the diet the most awkward to start off with. Carbs this, sugars that etc. Right now I think nuclear physics could be easier to understand
 
Don't worry - you'll soon get the hang of it. :) There are two books that can help you - Calorie Carb Fat Bible 2011 ( it is updated every year) which is a large book and smaller books (pocket sized) but less accurate are the Collins Gem Carb Counter or Calorie Counter (which includes carbs). You can find them on Amazon or in good book stores. These should take some of the mystery out of carb counting. As for sugars - they are just carbs and the sugars are included in the carb total shown on the packet even though they are often listed separately as well. I understand carb counting but not nuclear physics either :lol:
 
HI you are more than likely have been prescribed Metformin to help lower your BG levels

There are other benefits from taking Metformin

You will find Metformin also helps with :
# Helping with weight loss :D
# Lowering total cholesterol, triglycerides, and LDL cholesterol ("bad cholesterol") :D
# Raising HDL cholesterol ("good cholesterol") :D

Better stick to your meds and talk with your nurse and GP


Bob
 
Thanks for all the advice.

Diabetic Nurse day. My first time and I've not heard good things about her. lol
 
The dn was ok, she even gave me a monitor. I used some of the advice given about strips, although she did say I might only be able to get one prescription for them and not a repeat.
 
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