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<blockquote data-quote="Fleegle" data-source="post: 1716000" data-attributes="member: 402985"><p>I did the ND through the liquid shakes and if you want to know more PM me and I will tell you what I found out. My thread tracking my progress is on here somewhere to. I am loathed to give to much information in a post as I have seen what for me borders on rude.</p><p></p><p>Now here I will give you evidence of someone who has done it - as opposed to the posters who haven't if that is useful:-</p><p>To be honest broadly speaking I found it easy and rarely felt hungry - bored, not hungry.</p><p>You will see many myths posted by people about putting all the weight back on (I can say - not true)</p><p>That you get hungry (not true for me) although I did miss the social eating aspects.</p><p>that it slows your metabolism down (not sure what mine measured at before so no evidence for me). And 16 weeks on my trousers are still lose and my wife would like me to put on a little more weight. </p><p>Then there are the spikes because there is a lot of sugar in the shakes. I found I was able to cope ok but I never like to see an 8 and certainly at the beginning I saw a couple of them. They were short and sorted themselves out and I found I could juggle the shake amounts. Curiously I found that my morning shake could be double or even the full days carb intake and was still quite a low spike - but my evening spike if I staged them as directed, three equal amounts, spiked much worse. </p><p></p><p>I would add that if you look at the site you can do this without the shakes - didnt try that but would suggest that would be a better way of doing. And I see no reason why you couldn't give it a go in a low carb way. You could eat an awful lot of broccoli before you hit high carb and your calories.</p><p></p><p>It didn't cure my T2 but made a massive difference. I did about two weeks of testing after the ND and was astonished at how many carbs I could consume in a meal with no impact. I have not done any of the checks (such as an OGTT) to prove it though because for me it was never about not being low carb going forwards.</p><p></p><p>Since being back on the LC diet (in fact Keto) now for 4months I am becoming concerned about the effect that is having on my morning liver dumps though my day reading are still much better since ND. The ND site has collated a mass of data showing the hugely positive effect this has had on many people and though I am not giving you medical advice at all - if you get all of that from your GP and are confident to give it a go - DO! I am also worried about the long term aspects of a LC diet on my kidneys mainly due to load.</p><p></p><p>You will find people on this site are strong advocates of LC - which is a really good thing - unfortunately many are a bit closed minded to any other option even though we are all different. Many also have never tried it.</p><p></p><p>Sadly I still don't understand why the two things here - LC and ND are opposed when they could go hand in glove.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fleegle, post: 1716000, member: 402985"] I did the ND through the liquid shakes and if you want to know more PM me and I will tell you what I found out. My thread tracking my progress is on here somewhere to. I am loathed to give to much information in a post as I have seen what for me borders on rude. Now here I will give you evidence of someone who has done it - as opposed to the posters who haven't if that is useful:- To be honest broadly speaking I found it easy and rarely felt hungry - bored, not hungry. You will see many myths posted by people about putting all the weight back on (I can say - not true) That you get hungry (not true for me) although I did miss the social eating aspects. that it slows your metabolism down (not sure what mine measured at before so no evidence for me). And 16 weeks on my trousers are still lose and my wife would like me to put on a little more weight. Then there are the spikes because there is a lot of sugar in the shakes. I found I was able to cope ok but I never like to see an 8 and certainly at the beginning I saw a couple of them. They were short and sorted themselves out and I found I could juggle the shake amounts. Curiously I found that my morning shake could be double or even the full days carb intake and was still quite a low spike - but my evening spike if I staged them as directed, three equal amounts, spiked much worse. I would add that if you look at the site you can do this without the shakes - didnt try that but would suggest that would be a better way of doing. And I see no reason why you couldn't give it a go in a low carb way. You could eat an awful lot of broccoli before you hit high carb and your calories. It didn't cure my T2 but made a massive difference. I did about two weeks of testing after the ND and was astonished at how many carbs I could consume in a meal with no impact. I have not done any of the checks (such as an OGTT) to prove it though because for me it was never about not being low carb going forwards. Since being back on the LC diet (in fact Keto) now for 4months I am becoming concerned about the effect that is having on my morning liver dumps though my day reading are still much better since ND. The ND site has collated a mass of data showing the hugely positive effect this has had on many people and though I am not giving you medical advice at all - if you get all of that from your GP and are confident to give it a go - DO! I am also worried about the long term aspects of a LC diet on my kidneys mainly due to load. You will find people on this site are strong advocates of LC - which is a really good thing - unfortunately many are a bit closed minded to any other option even though we are all different. Many also have never tried it. Sadly I still don't understand why the two things here - LC and ND are opposed when they could go hand in glove. [/QUOTE]
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