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<blockquote data-quote="xyzzy" data-source="post: 405205" data-attributes="member: 40343"><p>Why is it so difficult to accept there is a difference? When you suffer your episodes they are likely unpleasant and have a real unpleasant physical effects yet do you run the risk of falling into a diabetic coma and actually suffering death or brain damage? That's the distinction I and many make.</p><p></p><p>I know as a T1 my son can <u>die</u> from a hypo whereas T2's (like me) using diet or non insulin stimulating meds and even non diabetics can occasionally suffer a bout of "low blood sugars". The effects may well be unpleasant but your natural liver dump response will in the end kick in and send your BG's north just as they've always done since the day you were was born. </p><p></p><p>That is common definition of a true hypo where the effective overdose of injected insulin (or more rarely from insulin stimulating medication) can override the bodies natural glucose liver dump response and that is why a true hypo is life threatening and should not be discussed in such a glib way.</p><p></p><p>Everyone is unique and everyone will have their own base fasting levels. I read somewhere that the average non diabetics fasting level is 4.2. As its an average some people will have fasting levels above that and some will have fasting levels in the 3's. People with fasting levels in the 3's do not spend the majority of the time in diabetic comas. Most don't even realise what their fasting level is!</p><p></p><p>A low blood sugar (or hypo) episode occurs at the BG that you feel the effects at. This can vary from person to person and be effected by say the time of day and how quickly your BG's are actually falling. The "less than 4" rule is there primarily for insulin using diabetics as a warning that they may need to take action if their BG continues to fall. The ADA defines a true hypo condition to begin at levels less than 2.7. The lowest level I've recorded was 2.2. I felt a bit weird but was entirely coherent and conscious and corrected by eating a round of toast with some marmalade on it. On another occasion I have actually fainted (for a few seconds) from "low blood sugars" at levels in the low 4's even though the low 4's are my normal fasting range.</p><p></p><p>The physical BG reading isn't in my opinion what counts it's the effects and importantly how often you are getting those hypoglycaemic events. If it happens on a regular basis you should take professional medical advice especially if you are not on any kind of insulin stimulating medication or insulin itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="xyzzy, post: 405205, member: 40343"] Why is it so difficult to accept there is a difference? When you suffer your episodes they are likely unpleasant and have a real unpleasant physical effects yet do you run the risk of falling into a diabetic coma and actually suffering death or brain damage? That's the distinction I and many make. I know as a T1 my son can [u]die[/u] from a hypo whereas T2's (like me) using diet or non insulin stimulating meds and even non diabetics can occasionally suffer a bout of "low blood sugars". The effects may well be unpleasant but your natural liver dump response will in the end kick in and send your BG's north just as they've always done since the day you were was born. That is common definition of a true hypo where the effective overdose of injected insulin (or more rarely from insulin stimulating medication) can override the bodies natural glucose liver dump response and that is why a true hypo is life threatening and should not be discussed in such a glib way. Everyone is unique and everyone will have their own base fasting levels. I read somewhere that the average non diabetics fasting level is 4.2. As its an average some people will have fasting levels above that and some will have fasting levels in the 3's. People with fasting levels in the 3's do not spend the majority of the time in diabetic comas. Most don't even realise what their fasting level is! A low blood sugar (or hypo) episode occurs at the BG that you feel the effects at. This can vary from person to person and be effected by say the time of day and how quickly your BG's are actually falling. The "less than 4" rule is there primarily for insulin using diabetics as a warning that they may need to take action if their BG continues to fall. The ADA defines a true hypo condition to begin at levels less than 2.7. The lowest level I've recorded was 2.2. I felt a bit weird but was entirely coherent and conscious and corrected by eating a round of toast with some marmalade on it. On another occasion I have actually fainted (for a few seconds) from "low blood sugars" at levels in the low 4's even though the low 4's are my normal fasting range. The physical BG reading isn't in my opinion what counts it's the effects and importantly how often you are getting those hypoglycaemic events. If it happens on a regular basis you should take professional medical advice especially if you are not on any kind of insulin stimulating medication or insulin itself. [/QUOTE]
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