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gazzerg

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Hi All
Got diagnosed just over 7 days ago now.
I was going in for my annual BP check and I decided to fast the night before. I had been feeling really tired and drinking a lot more of an evening, so I asked the nurse to do a full check on my blood whilst checking my usual stuff.
First check came back at 16.1! Straight away I went out and bought my own Glucose monitor (thanks to a £10 off code on this site :D ). After some minor changes in my diet, no sweets, sugar and basic ****, I managed to reduce my level to between 10 - 11 and drop a stone in weight.
The lowest I have ever been was the following Saturday, bacon & egg barm followed by a tough 18 holes of golf, 5.6 after golf. Thought I had cracked it without going on the pills, but as the nurse pointed out, I can't do that every day, although it does sound like heaven...
2 weeks on and I submitted a second test and it came back as 10.1, so I have just started on 1 500mg Metformin tablet.
Read some great advice on here, and now in 2 minds whether to go on this DESMOND course. I am slowly getting my head around the low carb diet and just ordered the Collins Carb book to help me out. From today am trying to stick to below 150g of carbs to start and see how I get on.
Great forum, great advice.
 
Hi Gazer and welcome to the forum :)

I'm not sure if you have seen the information we give to new members already, but here it is just in case you didn't see it. Ask all the questions you like as there is always someone here to help you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Welcome to the forum Gazer :)

Glad things are beginning to get better and buying a meter is brilliant as it makes the whole thing loads easier. As to low carb then that's also pretty straightforward. Just drastically cut down on the obvious sugary things including pure fruit juices but then I'd suggest halving your intake of starchy foods (rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, cereals and other flour based stuff). Your aim should be to keep your levels under 8 two hours after eating a meal. At the start when your levels are high you may find that difficult so instead aim that your 2 hour reading should be roughly the same as it was before your meal. If you do that you should see a gradual day by day improvement until you find all your readings will be under 8. This can takes some weeks to achieve in some people. On the starchy foods you keep try swapping to brown versions so brown basmati rice, brown or tri colour pasta. The best bread that many of us have found is Burgen Soya bread that you should be able to pick up at most supermarkets. Remember its the "be under 8" that's important as doing so will minimise the risks of complications down the road so you may find you will need to cut down more than half on starchy foods or you may find you can do a bit more than half but that's why having a meter is important as it will tell you what you can tolerate. Try not to get hungry so replace what you have cut down on with loads of veg, cheese, meat, eggs etc.

Good look and keep asking questions
 
Thanks for the welcomes....
Managed to keep my carbs below 100 the last 2 days, and my reading lat night was 7.4 and this morning was 7.2.
Think I spent an extra hour shopping last night reading all the labels, needless to say there was no crisps bought :(
 
GazerG said:
Think I spent an extra hour shopping last night reading all the labels

That's an excellent thing to do in my opinion. I did exactly the same thing when first diagnosed and got things out of the fridge, freezer and cupboards just to get an idea on what the carb content of various things is.
 
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