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Typical NHS food plate

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swimmer2 said:
Has anyone here ever come across a recommended meal for a type 2 diabetic (by the NHS) - something that conforms to their 'carbs with every meal' advice?

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I think the NHS is confusing about diet. My dietitian gave me an action plan which says I should eat carbohydrates with every meal. My diabetes nurse said that she and her professor disagree but she gave me two diet sheets, neither of which had anything to do with diabetes.

I just Googled NHS food plate and got this.
 

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Do either of these plates look right for people who have discovered that control of carbohydrates help diabetes.

No matter where you look on NHS or anywhere else they seem to toe a party line of what is a healthy meal and it seems to be aimed at people who are healthy anyway.

So far my dietitian, my diet sheets from the surgery, the local diabetes charity and the healthy plates suggest that I should eat carbohydrates but they don't say in what quantity.
 
Well I posted this in the Low Carb forum deliberately and immediately following a visit to a consultant who suggested that I have 50% carbs with every meal.

Sid - I don't agree that portion control is as effective as low carbing. If it is effective for you at the NHS levels, then that only indicates that you have better pancreatic function than me. If I followed portion control but also ate to my meter, I would simply end up not having any quantity of high-carb foods so would be low carbing. The problem with having some 'high' carbohydrate is that then you have to deal with the cravings and it makes low carbing harder.

My original post was really about what would happen if a person, in this case me, followed the NHS advice given for the ideal food plate. This isn't just generic advice as I sat in a consulting room and was told that the only 'good' thing I ate was the 10g of Porridge Oats I have in the morning. I suspect, though I haven't tested it recently, that if I followed by consultant's advice my levels would rise very high and this would, if repeated, do me no good at all.

I think it's important to experiment on ourselves and work out what works. It keeps us motivated and prevents us slipping back to bad control and all the dangers that can bring. I also think that many thousands of diabetics are being badly let down by the NHS and I therefore think it's reasonable to, in this little "Low Carb" corner of a unofficial website, to promote the idea of low carbing as it works for me and many others on here who've tried it.

I am not a fanatic and I have no wish to disrespect others and the methods they use, but I'm proud of what many people on here have achieved by radically cutting their carb intake and I don't think we should be shy about that.
 

I agree, if I ate anything like wha they suggest as carbs, I certainly would not have got 5.5% in my blood tests last week. From what I see on my meter, I would have been above 10 all the time.
 
The portion thing is a red herring.

I'm 6ft2, weigh 250lbs, and I run 20 miles a week.

My BMR is 2300kcal/day, which makes my Daily Calorific Need somewhere between 3500 and 4000kcal per day.
If 50% of that comes from carbs, I'd have to eat between 440 to 500g of carbohydrates every single day to follow the NHS diet.

I know "we are all different", but no NID T2 Diabetic in the world could suck up 500g of carbs a day and still be well controlled.
 

I once nearly caught an injured squirrel...
 
borofergie said:
I once nearly caught an injured squirrel...
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Are squirrels allowed? - would have to be a strictly wild-nut squirrel - a sort of organic Paleo squirrel. Can't think it'd be very tasty.
 
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