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Undiagnosed: Numbness After Consuming Carbohydrates

Hi @J_Eicher,

Insulin increases immediately when carbs are consumed - in a non-diabetic person levels peak at around 45-60min after a meal and begins to go back to baseline after that (it pretty much mirrors the blood glucose peak). So if your symptoms start to tail off around the one hour mark that is when both glucose and insulin have peaked and are on their way down. My numbness/burning doesn't disappear so quickly, once it is triggered it hangs around and is often followed by muscle spasms that can last for days.

23andMe doesn't sequence your whole genome - only a select number of 'SNPs' ; regions where the code commonly varies between people. Many genes have multiple SNPs identified and most of these are not identified as disease-causing, they are just natural variation. So when looking at mutations in a gene it is important to research the actual SNP (the rsXXX) to see if it is associated with disease. Most of the major SNPs associated with periodic paralysis (and many other rare diseases) are not covered by 23andMe at all, so it wasn't much help in my case! The two possible SNPs that I did find of relevance are rs623011 and rs312691, I am homozygous for the risk alleles of these. They are near to the potassium channel gene KCNJ2, and these particular SNPs are linked to periodic paralysis in the literature but are not diagnostic as they are fairly common (~10% of people are homozygous for these mutations, so they might contribute some but there must be more to it). I just got a bargain on whole genome sequencing from Dante Labs so hopefully will have a lot more data to play with in a couple of months!

My potassium meter is a Horiba Laqua, not ideal as they need quite a lot of blood! Much more than a finger prick glucose meter. You also have to be really careful not to squeeze your finger to get more blood, as squeezing will break cells and you get a super-high potassium reading because you are seeing intracellular as well as serum K.

In terms of triggers for the onset of this, I had a run of viral infections winter 2016, a sinus infection and two different antibiotics Feb 2017 which is when I started going numb, lots of muscle spasms and weakness and I ended up in hospital for a week. I had MRI, lumbar puncture, so many blood tests, but nothing was found to be wrong with me apart from the common cold virus! They initially suspected MS, then Guillain-Barre syndrome, then it was just decided to be 'post-viral neuralgia'.
I have a history of epilepsy, and had been in hospital in 2004 with what the doctors considered to be a drug reaction when my medication was changed. But looking back, the symptoms were very much the same. Luckily I recovered just fine from that and had no major health issues until 2 years ago.

@ChetRoi that's fascinating about the Berberine! I have some arriving tomorrow, I'll report back...
 
Hi @DionneT

I checked with my husband, and he said he checked those SNPs - I also only have one heterozygous mutation there.

Ah, I thought insulin took a bit longer than that to kick in. Maybe I should consider redoing the OGTT again then, but demand insulin measurements at each interval - which they failed to do as I'd requested the first time, gah! I have my own BG monitor at home, so I knew my sugar was fine... it was the insulin sensitivity that concerned me (and still does). Also, re my symptoms, I'm never without the sensory issue, but it goes from a non-painful tingling/crawling, to feeling like I have a cheese grater running over my skin, and a million ants biting me (upper thighs are excruciating). The spasms/cramps and twitching are on and off for me (they seem unrelated to the other flare-up patterns), and come and go as they please, but they're not severe.

Hmmm, I've heard of a few people struggling with viral infections prior to onset. There are some suggestions in the literature that viruses like HSV/CMV/EBV can migrate to peripheral nerves and remain active there chronically, but it remains contentious. Have you had viral PCR done to check for active viruses?

You mentioned antibiotics... not fluoroquinolones like ciprofloxacin (Cipro), levofloxacin (Levaquin), moxifloxacin (Avelox) by any chance? Those are well-known nerve destroyers. @ChetRoi I noticed that you mentioned regular antibiotic use as well. Again, it might be worth doing a stool analysis to check for dysbiosis as well (both of you), as this is commonly triggered by antibiotics, which can lead to lipopolysaccharide toxemia and other gut-related pathologies. Just throwing some ideas out... you never know.
 
Hi Janal,

Have you ever find out the diagnosis of your numbness to carbs and sugar? I have been having pins and needles in feet, bone pain, numbness, flushes across legs each time after I take carbs or sugar. Sometimes throughout the day, the tingling sensation comes and go.

I did a fasting blood glucose test and value is normal. I’m just wondering have you ever find out what is happening to you? Every doctor that I went to tell me they have not heard of such symptoms and I’m really worried.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thank you.

Cheryl
 
Has anyone considered that the mechanism for the numbing response is due to inflammation?

I will post my details in the older thread which I can’t seem to link here. It’s titled - Numbness after carbs sugar
 
I will post my details in the older thread which I can’t seem to link here

Hello @Nmori welcome to the forum
You will need a few more posts under your belt before you can add any links, it's a rule they have in an attempt to discourage spamming
 
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