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<blockquote data-quote="Mbaker" data-source="post: 1662791" data-attributes="member: 256617"><p>I do have issues with any position of dogma. Persons in the space of diabetes management would have access to all of the resources I have seen; the LCHF protocol tends to always outperform every other alternative in the first 6 months with a narrowing of the gap circa 6 months onwards - this is the case time after time to the point I am happy to say is conclusive. If low calorie low fat and higher carb outperformed LCHF I would happily say so, as I was / am open minded so have no time for bias (personally I research other protocols such as Vegan and WFPB as well).</p><p></p><p>The problem I have is that at 60% carbs ratio, this is the high end of what we have been told to do in the developed and developing world for decades just at a greater amount in the "normal" population, and look where that has got us. I just take a common sense approach, that Type 2's have carb and insulin intolerance, so why spike these more than required., seems counter intuitive to me.</p><p></p><p>I do realise I have a little resentment still, as I thought I was doing well with my food choices such as home made pancakes with just lemon, oats with just cinnamon, home made soda bread, dates, Delmonte orange juice, punnets of grapes, bananas, no fizzy drinks (just 4 a year at networking to cut the orange juice), to end up with Type 2.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mbaker, post: 1662791, member: 256617"] I do have issues with any position of dogma. Persons in the space of diabetes management would have access to all of the resources I have seen; the LCHF protocol tends to always outperform every other alternative in the first 6 months with a narrowing of the gap circa 6 months onwards - this is the case time after time to the point I am happy to say is conclusive. If low calorie low fat and higher carb outperformed LCHF I would happily say so, as I was / am open minded so have no time for bias (personally I research other protocols such as Vegan and WFPB as well). The problem I have is that at 60% carbs ratio, this is the high end of what we have been told to do in the developed and developing world for decades just at a greater amount in the "normal" population, and look where that has got us. I just take a common sense approach, that Type 2's have carb and insulin intolerance, so why spike these more than required., seems counter intuitive to me. I do realise I have a little resentment still, as I thought I was doing well with my food choices such as home made pancakes with just lemon, oats with just cinnamon, home made soda bread, dates, Delmonte orange juice, punnets of grapes, bananas, no fizzy drinks (just 4 a year at networking to cut the orange juice), to end up with Type 2. [/QUOTE]
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