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Just a word of caution from my own personal experience. When my insulin sensitivity sucked I would find that excessive cheese consumption would tend to push my fasting glucose upwards somewhat.
Personally I pay no attention to calories or even make a conscious effort to monitor my macronutrient composition. I have a dietary ethos that I stick to, and my body seems to ensure I get everything I need without me having to overthink the details. Calories do of course matter, but in my opinion not nearly as much as their composition. Most certainly I do not subscribe to the CICO model of weight management.
Thanks Jim. I get your point. I just wanted to know if low-carb practitioners just don't care about total count of calories they are eating per day and eat until satiated as long as carbs are in range OR have a target calorie count and then manage the components from there.
I think I may have just not thought these things and maybe I am just starving myself by trying to reduce carb grams and not eating enough..... Learning! Learning! Learning!!!
Ah, well Greek yoghurt is very plain too, I eat the full fat version. Then I add low carb berries to give it something extra, for example. So obviously am not sure if they do anything like that in Indonesia.Irian Jaya... that is right... Papua... I forget the details, but there is one separate country called Papua New Guinea, which broke away from Indonesia and then there is a part of Indonesia that is called Papua. One of these two is also called (used to be called?) Irian Jaya - I forget which part.
On the Cheese and Yoghurt, I love them too and I think I just need to increase the quantitates. It is just so unusual for me. I mean, my life was mostly like - Cheese may be a couple of times a week when I have eggs for breakfast OR when we have Italian for dinner.... While I continue the eggs with similar levels of cheese as before, I have stopped eating Italian dinners as usually they are pasta.... So, yes net net my cheese consumption has possibly gone down... not even stable!! Yogurt, yes... but you know how Indians use it - This may sound terribly gross to my western friends, but usually it is Yogurt with Rice and it is plain yogurt.. Not sweet, not flavored. So... With reducing rice, I think I have also reduced yogurt!!
So much change needed to get my calories but not the carbs!!! I think I am learning.... Thanks
I would think that at 74kg it is unlikely you are underweight (unless you are very tall indeed)
I think that if you are trying to lose weight, calories are not a useful model, but if you want to stop losing weight then it can be useful to look at how many calories you are eating.
When I switched to Low Carb I lost more weight than I wanted to and was in danger of being underweight. (Down to 60kg, height 1m78cm) I was eating as much as I wanted and continued to lose weight. I looked at how many calories I was taking in and it was around 1500.
I found that eating the sort of food I ate , I needed around 2400 cal to keep a steady weight. To do this, as suggested above, I upped the fat and protein even more. But if I eat only to saiety I will lose weight. I needed to be be aware of the calories to make the mental shift in terms of how much I need to eat.
Once that mental shift was made, and the diet adjusted, I could stop thinking about calories - but for me they were a useful step. Now I weigh myself once a week, and if I am losing weight, I know how to eat a bit more to get back to my stable weight. Doing this I have been a stable weight (within 0.5kg) for 2 years.
I think different people have different approaches, but I is what works for you that matters.
I would think that at 74kg it is unlikely you are underweight (unless you are very tall indeed)
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Wouldn't that just be fatty meat at the end of the day? Depends what health experts you listen to...Do cannibals get heart disease if they eat people with high cholesterol?
Glad you have a plan in mind though @Shas3 and trust me I always say it's how you feel not what the experts say.
The only thing you don't want to lose at your age is muscle which may have occurred due to your recent injury. When you do get back in the gym your body can gain more muscle but do feed it the extra fat and protein it needs to do so! If you feel unwell or have other symptoms then that is when rapid weight loss should concern you.It is funny you should say this... Just the other day, I was looking at my pictures from college days and I thought I was so skinny and I was considered the fat guy in the class!!! And I was wondering, how the hell was that possible. You are so right the benchmarks were so so so different at one time. I think we have just got used to the whole bigger, fatter bodies!! I will try to worry less and still get my doc to do whatever checks he feels are necessary!!! Thanks!!!
Thanks. Very true about muscle loss. In fact the leg cast came off yesterday and muscle atrophy is clear... i think gym will start soon... no running yet though...The only thing you don't want to lose at your age is muscle which may have occurred due to your recent injury. When you do get back in the gym your body can gain more muscle but do feed it the extra fat and protein it needs to do so! If you feel unwell or have other symptoms then that is when rapid weight loss should concern you.
Totally agree with the comments about folks getting fatter. Check out images of college fraternity pictures or music festivals up to the mid 70s. And no it wasn't just that lots of people chain smoked.
Great... thanks... yes cheese it will be... with more eggs i guess...I'm another one that lost all my excess weight and then couldn't stop losing. I also increased my fats and protein, and even though I lowered my carbs at the same time, I stopped losing and have now been stable at my desired weight for 4 and a half years. My fat/protein increase came mainly from cheese, extra eggs, extra butter.
We'll always be right behind you! I'm just glad things are working out.Thanks.. the plan is all thanks to thoughts and support from this helpful community
Indeed - how one feels and listening to one’s body have been replaced by expert-speak..
Not sure what equipment you can get in Indonesia (please forgive my ignorance!) but if you can, invest in a ice-cream maker. In the UK they don't cost very much. You can then make your own ice-cream. I simply use thick cream and strawberries blended together and put into the ice-cream maker, but you can experiment using yoghurt instead of cream and all sorts of other low carb things - nuts, dark choc chips etc. There will be lots of recipes on the internet but it doesn't have to be complicated!Looks like I sure have been..…… I need to up my calories I think to stop the weight loss and yet please the blood glucose meter, which eventually means more protein or fat!! Is there carb-free-sugar-free ice cream... I need to treat myself!!
@Jim Lahey .......you are too much LOLDo cannibals get heart disease if they eat people with high cholesterol?
I find my fasting glucose makes me excessively cheesy......boom boom......I'm here all day folksJust a word of caution from my own personal experience. When my insulin sensitivity sucked I would find that excessive cheese consumption would tend to push my fasting glucose upwards somewhat.
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