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keepermick

Newbie
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Location
Shropshire
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
I've been pre diabetic for many years now but have finally been told I am now proper type 2 diabetic. I suppose I berried my head in the sand so to speak. I'm 51 was 17.5 stones and a very basic eater. I don't like veg or fruit or sweets but I do love my bread and pasta. Having had a little look around the site I feel I maybe a lost cause. I was admitted to hospital on Christmas day with a very bad case pompholyx eczema. They put me on a massive dose of steroids which is now going to take me 8 weeks to get weened off them. I purchased a meter yesterday (results vary from 8 to 12) and I'm due to see a diabetic nurse on Friday. My wife now knows my true situation and it's meant I've now got to deal with it. I've put on 1 and half stones since taking these steroids. A bit of friendly advise would be a real help. Thanks for reading this and I'll spend as much time as possible reading through this site.
 
@keepermick

Hi Mick and welcome to the forum :)

To get you started, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. It was a good thing to buy a meter as it will help you to see what effect foods have on your levels by testing before and 2 hours after eating. You need to reduce the carbs you eat. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to answer you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
I've been pre diabetic for many years now but have finally been told I am now proper type 2 diabetic. I suppose I berried my head in the sand so to speak. I'm 51 was 17.5 stones and a very basic eater. I don't like veg or fruit or sweets but I do love my bread and pasta. Having had a little look around the site I feel I maybe a lost cause.

Nope no such thing as a lost cause mick,
I can't give you any advice with the steroids I'm afraid but regarding diet all is not lost and it's surprising how soon you find alternative foods that don't push your sugars too high.
Stick with us and we will be here to answer any questions you have.
 
Hello and welcome ,
By sharing you are starting to take control ...
Lots to read and think about , when you are ready make a plan ....for yourself ...set goals, for just you ...ones you can achieve which will help your health ...
Let us know how you get on and lots of people around to answer questions and offer support ...kat
 
Hi @keepermick and welcome to the forum, you've come to the right place here and there will be a lot of people ready to give a lot of encouragement.

I'm very pleased with your honesty over the food and that you like the Pasta & Bread, it's unfortunate but removing these items from your diet in particular now which will help you to lose weight will get those numbers down.

I was 17st 8lbs when I started at 6ft tall, I have managed to get down to nearly14st. The last stone 1 & 1/2 has been since diagnosis in October by moving onto a Low Carb Moderate Fat diet. I'm still eating a lot of food but very few carbs.

To give you a little hope now, I have lost some weight, my numbers have reduced because you become more sensitive to insulin as the weight comes off. So now I have been able to re introduce some bread back into my diet I can sometimes manage 2 slices of Hovis Seed Sensations but it really depends on what I have with it, I can certainly mange 1 slice at mealtime. Also being able to have some rice, must be honest have not tried the Pasta but will be. My consumption on the Potatoes Pasta & Rice was huge. Nothing to have 1/2 plate of really creamy mash or a full high plate of pasta or rice and go back for more not any more and it's great

I do think that if you persevere and try all the vegs you will find some that you like. Make sure when you choose the vegs from those that grow above the ground as some of the root vegs will spike you, but I do find that swede is OK.

Eat to your meter.

Please report back tell us how you get on.............

Good luck
Neil
 
Wow what quick responses! I'll wait till Friday after speaking to the diabetic nurse and report back. Feel encouraged already! Many Thanks.
 
Hi and welcome.

I strongly advise you to obtain a glucose meter. You probably won't be given one by your nurse, and it is highly likely she will tell you not to test. This is the standard advice given out by the NHS but they fail to realise just what an essential tool a meter is. You need one to learn which foods you can manage and which you can't, because we all have different metabolisms and cope with carbs differently.

You need to cut the carbs, but by how much only your meter can tell you.

Good luck, keep reading, keep posting, and ask as many questions as you like.
 
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