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Well. . . .. . .It could be worse. . .

mikegreen47

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Location
Utica, New York, USA
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
This was quite a shock for me. I had just got a new job, finally got insurance, and I had to go to the Doctor to get some routine tests, We all know them. The ones where you give several quarts of blood and give gallons of urine. I had no early indications. No pre-diabetes alert. I had great numbers for everything the Doctor was just great. and then he says, "by the way you realize that you have type 2 diabetes. Sudden shock ensues. "are you sure?" How? I knew I was overweight but I had lost over 40 lbs in the last year and that was not easy. Now it is even harder. I want to lose 30 more. It took me a few moments to go through the stages of grief. It was not as hard or as long as most thought. While I did not see this coming, many in my family had had diabetes. My grandmother and grandfather on my mother's side. Not sure about my genetic father's side. So the chances of getting this was not out of the question. I just thought I would get it later. Like over 60. So for the first time in my life I am an early bloomer.

I am struggling right now with how to balance and regulate blood sugar levels and keep up with my schedule at work. I teach from 11am - 3 pm MWF. So, eating lunch around 10:30 is a bit chancy. I have been taking my food to work and I have had a few incidents at work. I have been dropping a bit around 12:30 about 1 hour and 45 min after I have eaten. I have learned to kind of divide my lunch a bit so I can eat a little between classes. This sometimes helps. Any advice on suggestions to help sustain and yet not raise levels too high are appreciated.
 
Hi Mike and welcome

What are your figures .... we can do the conversions as UK and Australia work with the mmol standards. That's the starting point.

Details on diet would also help.

Cheers Mike
 
This was quite a shock for me. I had just got a new job, finally got insurance, and I had to go to the Doctor to get some routine tests, We all know them. The ones where you give several quarts of blood and give gallons of urine. I had no early indications. No pre-diabetes alert. I had great numbers for everything the Doctor was just great. and then he says, "by the way you realize that you have type 2 diabetes. Sudden shock ensues. "are you sure?" How? I knew I was overweight but I had lost over 40 lbs in the last year and that was not easy. Now it is even harder. I want to lose 30 more. It took me a few moments to go through the stages of grief. It was not as hard or as long as most thought. While I did not see this coming, many in my family had had diabetes. My grandmother and grandfather on my mother's side. Not sure about my genetic father's side. So the chances of getting this was not out of the question. I just thought I would get it later. Like over 60. So for the first time in my life I am an early bloomer....Any advice on suggestions to help sustain and yet not raise levels too high are appreciated. .

Mikegreen47, I too got a major shock when I was diagnosed (no prediabetes either, as a wake-up call). Because of my sweet-tooth, I too had wondered if I might get prediabetes one day - but at a lot older than at 52! (And no diabetics that any of us knew of in our family) They talk about this being a pandemic for good reason, alas for us, who find ourselves looking at the news headlines and book titles and www pages knowing we are now a part of it. Victims? I guess - perfectly apt word when it comes to a pandemic. Even if it is a human-made one!

But there is good news amongst all the bad - and plenty of it in here, with many stories from individuals who have found ways to get healthier. (And lots of excellent literature online and in publications.)

The very first thing I did was cut out food with added sugar (and why food-label reading is so important with T2D management) and used artificially sweetened goods, and sweetening with honey as a buffer, to get me over that transition. (I would say it took a month?) This meant stopping eating processed food and drink, and cafe and restaurant food basically straight away (except as the odd treat, so I didn't feel too sorry for myself!). What this means is eating food as close to its wholefood form as possible - and I am not sure how that fits into your working life and lunch schedule. I had to learn to cook properly for the first time in my life - which was a colossal bore, I can't lie. But was it worth it? And ultimately contributed to much improved health and blood glucose levels? Oh yes. I lost lots of weight pretty quickly too, which is part of the improvement in blood glucose/insulin levels for many T2Diabetics. Now I am grateful for the cooking skills, as I do not depend on the vagaries of chefs at local cafes, or my partner's inclinations to cook - and I eat really well every single day, quite wonderful food. And I have kitchen cupboards full of containers to store wholesome food and carry it out and about with me, to avoid those processed foods that are everywhere. (And yes - taste absolutely wonderful! And yes - can slowly kill us, alas.)

And I started walking. And walking. And walking some more. (How much exercise and how to exercise is very individual and personal choice - but it is without question extremely important to get moving, for a whole host of physical/medical/blood glucose/insulin reasons.)

At that stage I didn't know what I know now about ingredients in processed foods that play havoc with your appetite, and your metabolism (and often of course - your weight and belly fat). But if you haven't already - I would treat yourself to a feast of documentaries and youtube segments on addictive additives in factory made food! Acts as an excellent support for your new food lifestyle - if you choose to improve your blood sugar levels by big changes in nutrition and food choice. And helps understand the current boom-time of T2D! You are not alone, indeed, in this.

Good luck with finding your recipe for success at getting healthier!
 
Hi @mikegreen47

Welcome to the forum, the best place there is to find advice and support, and well done on your weight loss so far. That is brilliant.

Diet is the key in this, and carbs are the culprits as they all convert to glucose once eaten, so just think of carbs as being sugar and you will get there.

As for your meals, it is best to have 3 meals as evenly spaced as you can manage, although some folk do eat "little and often". Could you have a small snack for breakfast, then a larger breakfast before you start teaching, then lunch after you finish?

I will tag @daisy1 who will come with some general advice for newly diagnosed. Meanwhile, have a good read round, consider buying a glucose meter, and ask as many questions as you like,
 
@mikegreen47

Hello Mike and welcome to the forum :)

You have received some good information already which I hope you are finding helpful. Here is the information we give to new members which should be useful to you too. Ask all the questions you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi @mikegreen47 welcome :).

Have a good read around, including the links in my sig below, ask anything you like.
 
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