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What Happens If I’m Continually Running High

NikkieDuranie

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Insulin


My numbers are continually high, am getting to grips with testing and going to focus on the difference before and after a meal for now and Keri g the numbers close together.

Is there anything I should look out for with numbers this high?

Am not anxious about them as I will learn what will make a difference, just want to be aware if there is anything that could be immediately concerning. Thanks
 
Mine were similar when I first started. It does take some time to start coming down.

Are you keeping a note of your rises before and after meals?

If I got a rise of more than 2 it meant either too many carbs or the portion was too large.

It's a huge learning curve. Take it slowly.
 

It would be a good idea to keep a food diary if you are not doing so already, and take not of what you are eating when you have readings like this. Are you testing before and 2 hours after meals?

I have monitored my blood sugar readings since 4th May,and in that time have brought down my readings a lot by reducing portions or eliminating some foods altogether. I was slightly in denial of the effect of carbs on my blood sugar until I tested after a Chinese banquet and was horrified at how high the numbers were. I am guessing the food was loaded with sugar and there was lots of cornflour in the sauces.

My levels are now down from being in the 8s and 9s to the 5s and 6s. I followed a fairly low carb diet in the weeks before i got the meter, so I should think mine were probably similar to yours at diagnosis as my HbA1c was 82 - an average of over 12.

You may be able to make a huge difference to you readings with some time looking at what you are eating and making some adjustments. I did find that portion size was also a factor and I was eating twice what I should be at meals which was pushing up my sugars as well.
 
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Thanks I am concentrating on the pre and post meal numbers. Pre lunch was 20.5 and after 24.8. Waiting now to do evening one.
 
Please call your doctor first thing and ask for an emergency appointment. Failing that please go to a walk in centre where you will get seen. You cannot wait for your appointment with numbers like this. The longer you are high the more damage you'd body is suffering.
 

Ok thanks will do. Am just feeling progressively more tired and yuck. Will ring first thing
 
Back in January my numbers were similar, I'm in the 8-9 area now and on gliclazide. Whilst I prep my meals I put everything into MyFitnessPal and it tells me the carbs, that way I can adjust accordingly and means I make adjustments whilst prepping. I test before and 2 hrs after each meal aiming to stick to no rises over 2mmol/L. You'll get there but I would second advice here about seeing your diabetic nurse or doctor
 

Thank you will do. Was only diagnosed last week and haven’t had my new diabetic appointment yet. Another two weeks yet so will def try and call dr in the meantime
 
Hi @NikkieDuranie i see someone suggested an app to help with monitoring carb intake, I use a different one but I like it as you can set your own targets for total carbs, protein etc, I find it a great help, keeps me on track and as suggested by @callieuk its a good idea to adjust amount of foods as you go to try to keep within your daily target. The app I use is Nutrachek, it might be worth checking it out as an aid to help you in these early days.
Good luck tomorrow I hope you can be seen and get the help you need sooner rather than later.
 
I’m glad you are monitoring your numbers and figuring out the relationship between food and glucose levels - it is a big learning curve and don’t be discouraged.

I must have had similar numbers last year, although I wasn’t testing then so I don’t know. I have been on a very low carb diet for the last four months though, with numbers ranging from high 5s to high 7s. And I know from occasional transgressions that a curry will keep me between 12 and 15 for at least 8 hrs. But... last week was very stressful and I pigged out on Shreddies and Weetabix and spent 48 hrs not going under 11. And on Friday I lost it completely and bought a meal deal - prawn sandwich on wheat bread, a Bounty bar, crisps. And diet drink.

Urm.... that put me up to 21+ for lunch until 8pm when I gave up and went to bed because I felt so awful and tired and slept for 11 hours. Lesson well and truly learned...

General point is that I ate what I would never have thought a year ago would have such an astounding effect. The odd thing is that I can eat a pack of crisps and keep it within a 2mmol rise..! But me and wheat/whatever is in brown bread/Shreddies is not my friend. I am not able to eat 1 slice of brown bread and keep within the recommended margins.... so know a sandwich is out of question for me. Which is such an odd thing to say. But I only found out through testing, so good luck - you are on be right track by even thinking about it.
 
Sandwich!

Everyone is different. I used livlife bread, one slice gave me barely a blip. Great I thought. So I made a bacon buttie using two slices. The meter gave me a reading that made me want to weep.

I seem to be incredibly sensitive to carbs.

I find something spikes, leave it out of your diet, at least for a few days. Then try it again.

It seems to take ages to get a handle on it. However, it took me 6 months to bring my HbA1c down from 122 to 35.

I made loads of mistakes early on. Don't be discouraged, treat it as part of your education.

Stick with the forum, you will learn loads.
 
As you progress further along this new path, you will find that there are a lot of low carb recipes you can use to make your meals lower carb. If you have a look on https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/recipes/bread you will find that you can even make your own low carb bread so you can keep eating sandwiches without it causing huge spikes - I would recommend googling Oopsie bread also known as Cloud bread as I make this for bacon sandwiches and it is lovely - even my daughter loved it when she tried it. Normal bread has around 40-50 carbs per 100g and Oopsie bread has 2-3g per 100g. The recipe I use comes from this blog: https://www.thelittlepine.com/oopsie-bread/

It is very simple to make, and really tasty.

There is also a board on this forum for low carb diets: https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/low-carb-diet-forum.18/ that you may find helpful.

Another really useful thread is one called "What have you eaten today" https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/ where you will find people talking about recipes and meals.
 
Hi @NikkieDuranie
You've only been diagnosed since the 11th. It will take a little bit of time. We're all different but as an indication I had a fasting level similar to yours and it took about 1 month to get around the 7s. Another month to get into the 5s. Another month to stay consistently in the 5s with only smaller rises after meals ( 2 or less ). Weight loss helped immensely. I was overweight at 106kg and dropped to 88kg over 9 months. What weight are you. Don't overlook this factor if you are overweight. It is just as important as diet.
 
Nikkie, before you attend your next appointment, write down a list of what you want to talk about.

Remember that not all hpcs are created equal. I am very fortunate, my DN is fabulous. Some are not as supportive.

I think there is a thread on one of the boards somewhere about your first appointment.

My second appointment, it was suggested that I would probably be put on insulin. I said no thank you. I would try and do it by diet. So far it's paying off.
 
Hi @NikkieDuranie i hope all went well for you today and you have managed to get some answers to your questions and fingers crossed you saw some slightly better numbers?
 
jayney27 said:
Hi @NikkieDuranie i hope all went well for you today and you have managed to get some answers to your questions and fingers crossed you saw some slightly better numbers?
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Thank you. I missed dr call as was in meetings and then travelling

My pre lunch was lower although still 12, then ate on the run which ended up being a sandwiche. I need to plan for when travelling between meetings.

Was surprised between pre and after dinner, I had no carbs at all.
 
Got to lose the sandwiches. If you have to pop into a shop for the sandwiches, get a piece of cheese instead.

I used to take cheese, a few walnuts and olives to eat on the run. Half a pack of peanuts about 30g, has only about 3g carbs.

Running around having meetings can be stressful and raise BG.
 

Yes I have done that tonight as my son has an operation tomorrow so will be in overnight so have got some nuts, cheese and fresh berries.

I am like this eating to the monitor idea as you can really see problems.
 
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