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<blockquote data-quote="Brunneria" data-source="post: 1079807" data-attributes="member: 41816"><p>What a silly article.</p><p></p><p>The arguments that stuffing mice with processed cr%p and claiming that Paleo = zero carb, are nonsense from the start.</p><p></p><p>I think articles like this are siezed on by journalists and fat phobics and trotted out like some kind of 'evidence', but the reality is that the kind of eating they describe is never going to be healthy.</p><p></p><p>Volek and Phinney make a big point in their books and their research - they have been studying, running studies and publishing about LC for decades now - about what they call <em><strong>a well formulated low carb diet</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p>The main features (from memory) include:</p><p>- low enough carbs that the individual dips below their personal carb tolerance threshold (could be 20g, could be 180g)</p><p>- high enough fat that the individual is losing desired weight, <em><strong>or</strong></em> gains, <em><strong>or</strong></em> is weight-stable (again, personal preference)</p><p>- has enough fibre, veg, nutrients and particularly minerals, etc. to provide <em><strong>complete nutrition</strong></em></p><p>- is <em><strong>enjoyable</strong></em></p><p>- is<em><strong> sustainable</strong></em></p><p>- maintains <em><strong>great blood lipids</strong></em></p><p>- each person finds<em><strong> their own level </strong></em>on all of the above</p><p></p><p>So, clearly, a well formulated LC diet does not have to be high fat. Nor does it need to be ketogenic, or high saturated fat, or any of the little urban myths and obsessive bug bears that crop up so often on the forum. Although it can be one, or all of them.</p><p></p><p>Basically, each of us has wide freedom to find a diet that suits us, with appropriate fat, veg, carb, mineral, fibre, etc. levels to suit us individually.</p><p></p><p>Actually, the only thing a LC diet actually needs to have is carbs that are lower than the average Standard American/UK Diet - and that ain't difficult, is it?</p><p></p><p>Those poor mice.</p><p>Force fed cr$p til it kills them, and then used to promote an indefensible argument.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brunneria, post: 1079807, member: 41816"] What a silly article. The arguments that stuffing mice with processed cr%p and claiming that Paleo = zero carb, are nonsense from the start. I think articles like this are siezed on by journalists and fat phobics and trotted out like some kind of 'evidence', but the reality is that the kind of eating they describe is never going to be healthy. Volek and Phinney make a big point in their books and their research - they have been studying, running studies and publishing about LC for decades now - about what they call [I][B]a well formulated low carb diet[/B][/I]. The main features (from memory) include: - low enough carbs that the individual dips below their personal carb tolerance threshold (could be 20g, could be 180g) - high enough fat that the individual is losing desired weight, [I][B]or[/B][/I] gains, [I][B]or[/B][/I] is weight-stable (again, personal preference) - has enough fibre, veg, nutrients and particularly minerals, etc. to provide [I][B]complete nutrition[/B][/I] - is [I][B]enjoyable[/B][/I] - is[I][B] sustainable[/B][/I] - maintains [I][B]great blood lipids[/B][/I] - each person finds[I][B] their own level [/B][/I]on all of the above So, clearly, a well formulated LC diet does not have to be high fat. Nor does it need to be ketogenic, or high saturated fat, or any of the little urban myths and obsessive bug bears that crop up so often on the forum. Although it can be one, or all of them. Basically, each of us has wide freedom to find a diet that suits us, with appropriate fat, veg, carb, mineral, fibre, etc. levels to suit us individually. Actually, the only thing a LC diet actually needs to have is carbs that are lower than the average Standard American/UK Diet - and that ain't difficult, is it? Those poor mice. Force fed cr$p til it kills them, and then used to promote an indefensible argument. [/QUOTE]
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