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<blockquote data-quote="AdamJames" data-source="post: 1676241" data-attributes="member: 459333"><p>Great video. I like the way he presents stuff.</p><p></p><p>I thought the most interesting bit was the point about the difference between a high intake of saturated fat (= not a problem), and having a high level of circulating fat in the blood (= problem). And how circulating fat correlates to carbs, i.e. if you intake carbs along with the dietary fat, that increases circulating fat.</p><p></p><p>This suggests that what a lot of Type 2 diabetics are doing, i.e. still having quite a few carbs (say 50-100g a day) and increasing the fat, might not be ideal. This is what I've been doing, by and large, for months. Reading around this forum, it's quite common.</p><p></p><p>I know it's not always the way that our bodies give us warning signs, but so far, if my heart *is* giving me warning signs via chest pains, it's telling me that whenever I fill my body with dietary fat, it's not happy. That did make me wonder if really, you have to fully commit to virtually eradicating carbs in order to get the best from a high fat diet. I.e. you have to make your body, in no uncertain terms, switch from one fuel type to another.</p><p></p><p>Coming at it from another angle, a surprising thing I noticed about all my own measurements over the last few months, is not only that varying carbs between 40g to 300g a day makes no difference to my fasting levels, but the days on 40g of carbs had similar meal spikes to the days on 300g. I put this down to the 'last meal effect'. That also made me think that reducing carbs from 300g to 40g really is not the full picture, and I asked the question in a couple of threads whether one really has to commit to virtually eliminating carbs to get best results.</p><p></p><p>For my own circumstance, I really wish I knew for sure why things have gone so wrong for me whenever the carbs have got very low. The doctors in the hospital couldn't work it out, nor could 2 GPs. I've been desperately trying to work it out myself, and it is actually possible that I was having too much salt. Recent logs tell me that, when I'm not deliberately adding salt to my diet, I can be getting anything from 2 to 9g a day. So when, a while back, I realised that I was almost certainly in ketosis at 20g of carbs a day, I read around and saw the advice about adding magnesium, potassium and sodium. So I added e.g. 1g of salt a day deliberately. But I was also eating a lot of things like flavoured nuts with a lot of salt in. It's quite possible I was having too much salt. Anyway that's an example of what I mean about needing to be much more cautious and trying ketosis sensibly - I need to get there gradually and monitor what I'm eating carefully. It could turn out that my body just can't do it safely. I wouldn't be the first to report not taking well to a keto diet, and we are all very different. I'd like to give it a fair try however.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AdamJames, post: 1676241, member: 459333"] Great video. I like the way he presents stuff. I thought the most interesting bit was the point about the difference between a high intake of saturated fat (= not a problem), and having a high level of circulating fat in the blood (= problem). And how circulating fat correlates to carbs, i.e. if you intake carbs along with the dietary fat, that increases circulating fat. This suggests that what a lot of Type 2 diabetics are doing, i.e. still having quite a few carbs (say 50-100g a day) and increasing the fat, might not be ideal. This is what I've been doing, by and large, for months. Reading around this forum, it's quite common. I know it's not always the way that our bodies give us warning signs, but so far, if my heart *is* giving me warning signs via chest pains, it's telling me that whenever I fill my body with dietary fat, it's not happy. That did make me wonder if really, you have to fully commit to virtually eradicating carbs in order to get the best from a high fat diet. I.e. you have to make your body, in no uncertain terms, switch from one fuel type to another. Coming at it from another angle, a surprising thing I noticed about all my own measurements over the last few months, is not only that varying carbs between 40g to 300g a day makes no difference to my fasting levels, but the days on 40g of carbs had similar meal spikes to the days on 300g. I put this down to the 'last meal effect'. That also made me think that reducing carbs from 300g to 40g really is not the full picture, and I asked the question in a couple of threads whether one really has to commit to virtually eliminating carbs to get best results. For my own circumstance, I really wish I knew for sure why things have gone so wrong for me whenever the carbs have got very low. The doctors in the hospital couldn't work it out, nor could 2 GPs. I've been desperately trying to work it out myself, and it is actually possible that I was having too much salt. Recent logs tell me that, when I'm not deliberately adding salt to my diet, I can be getting anything from 2 to 9g a day. So when, a while back, I realised that I was almost certainly in ketosis at 20g of carbs a day, I read around and saw the advice about adding magnesium, potassium and sodium. So I added e.g. 1g of salt a day deliberately. But I was also eating a lot of things like flavoured nuts with a lot of salt in. It's quite possible I was having too much salt. Anyway that's an example of what I mean about needing to be much more cautious and trying ketosis sensibly - I need to get there gradually and monitor what I'm eating carefully. It could turn out that my body just can't do it safely. I wouldn't be the first to report not taking well to a keto diet, and we are all very different. I'd like to give it a fair try however. [/QUOTE]
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