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Where can you get a Calcium Score (AKA Agaston) test in the UK?

wu-lee

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A follow on from my previous question about Kraft tests (link omitted, I seem unable to post links). I am a type-2 and I am concerned about possible future cardiovascular disease. My GP suggested I take statins, although my cholesterol levels have since improved.

I've heard about the calcium score test from the video A Cardiologist's Low Carb Journey by Dr. Jason Kaplan on the Low-carb Down-Under YouTube channel. (Also about the disconnect between cholesterol and CHD, but that's another topic.)

To summarise the video:

Arteriosclerosis is a precursor to coronary heart disease (CHD). It is when macrophage foam cells scavenge damaged ("small-dense") LDL particles, causing high-cholesterol lipids to pool between cells, which starts to caclify over time. The rupture of these calcified plaques are the immediate cause CHD. This process is gradual: it takes many years, but often starts in your 20s.


Currently, statins are the drug traditionally prescribed as knee jerk reaction to high blood-lipid cholesterol measurements. They can have adverse side effects. But, if you don't have arteriosclerosis, you do not need statins.

A calcium score test is a low radiation CT scan, lasting ~10 seconds in duration, which can be used to measure the calcification of arteries. It costs $100-200 AUS, no specialist referral is needed, and generally can be obtained from any large radiology provider.


A CS test allows identification of those who, despite high cholesterol, do not need statins. This is is reasonable measurement to make for:

  • Men over 45, or over 40 when more then two cardiac risk factors present (hypertension, diabetes, cholesterol, smoking, strong family history)
  • Menopausal women, or similarly earlier if risk factors present
  • Anyone with an arteriosclerosis/cardiovascular disease risk score of 5-20%

If your CS shows you don't have AS, and your doctor suggests taking statins, you should show them the very limited benefits of statins for low-risk people.

The take-home: if your 10 year CVD risk is <= 10% or your calcium score is <= 75%, then statins give far more limited reductions in CVD risk compared to diet and lifestyle changes.

I seem to check the boxes in the criteria above. But there's not much info I can find about this test. These are the questions I'd like to ask:
  • Is the Kraft test available on the NHS? (I live in Scotland)
  • In not on the NHS, where?
  • When private clinics offer it, what does it cost?
  • Why do GPs not know about it?
Searching online finds that Nuffield Health offers it a number of locations, the nearest to me being Glasgow. It does not disclose the cost.

I've enquired, but in the mean time I wanted to ask the forum what is known about this? Perhaps someone here has investigated and even had such a test?
 
I had a CAC score a few years ago at Rivers Hospital in Hertfordshire which then cost about £300

I think the Nuffields at the time were charging about £750.

Last time I checked Rivers had gone up to £450.. if I recall correctly.

If you want one you'll have to phone around and you may need a referral from your doctor (who probably won't have heard of the test anyway!).

At Rivers you used to be able to self refer.
 
@wu-lee - there is a research study (the study is called PREDICT) running out of Leicester, looking at cardio health in those living with T2. Participants in that study routinely have a BIG cardio MOT, including a raft of bloods, ultrasounds, exercise stress tests, MRIs and CT scans, including measuring arterial calcium deposits - and more.

Their recruitment is still open.

I participated in the study, back in the summer of last year. It was a very positive experience and I learned a LOT about my cardiovascular systems. Watching one's one heart beating is something else!
 
there is a research study (the study is called PREDICT) running out of Leicester, looking at cardio health in those living with T2. Participants in that study routinely have a BIG cardio MOT, including a raft of bloods, ultrasounds, exercise stress tests, MRIs and CT scans, including measuring arterial calcium deposits - and more.

Their recruitment is still open.

Thanks - slow reply, sorry.

I looked PREDICT up, interesting, sounds like exactly the thing I'd like to join, and it seems it has something to do with Tim Spector. But I couldn't find any way to participate. In fact their twitter feed says the study is concluded? (Can't include a link, as I've too few posts so far.)

Do you know of a link?
 
Thanks - slow reply, sorry.

I looked PREDICT up, interesting, sounds like exactly the thing I'd like to join, and it seems it has something to do with Tim Spector. But I couldn't find any way to participate. In fact their twitter feed says the study is concluded? (Can't include a link, as I've too few posts so far.)

Do you know of a link?

There are a number of PREDICT studies. I don't believe Tim Spector is particularly involved in the one I took part in. The team leading and running the study are, however, internationally renowned, so the quality is definitely there.

If you would like contact details, please send me a private message. Aside from other considerations, it is not permissible to publish individual's email addresses on open forum.
 
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