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<blockquote data-quote="mike@work" data-source="post: 2006398" data-attributes="member: 487115"><p>Hello [USER=375166]@Q4444[/USER] !</p><p>I have seen something like the scenario you have experienced. Was switched to Prothaphan (could be spelled a bit different in UK), with the consequence that I lost my hunger feelings. Can say I was not too happy, and when I mentioned the problem I got an answer like "No, no, that is not possible..." Well according to the lab rats, it is very possible for up to 2-3 % especially among switchers from animal insulins to human.</p><p>As far as I know, you can DEMAND a change, but as theese insulins are considered "old-fashioned", I think you also need a good reason why you wish to change.</p><p>I'm at this point still on Hypurin Bovine Lente, but that sort you will not be able to get any longer - supplies and "best before" run out in May, and no more are made. You will on the other hand, bee able to get long acting Hypurin Porcine Isophane and short acting Hypurin Porcine Neutral also in the future. I very recently got a new prescription with the Porcine variant.</p><p></p><p>So, the only advice I can give you, if you really wish to switch, is to take up the fight.</p><p>Keep in mind, that theese old insulins have different action curves than many new ones. On the other hand there are some noticeable differences in favor for the older ones in my opinion, such as:</p><p></p><p>I have problems with (some?) synthetic insulins when BSLs are high - they have poor effect. Old animal sorts work in all cases.</p><p>Synthetic have strong effect, when BSL already low, which increases Hypo risk. This is a known problem for many newer synthetic insulins. Animal insulins have only slightly noticeable increased effect when BSLs are low, at least on me.</p><p>The discussion about human insulins not giving insulin resistance is old and clearly not true.</p><p>Animal insulins of today are highly purified (Hypurin), and does not give more problems than synthetic. As a matter of fact, the only insulin you can get today, that is almost identical with your own body's insulin is Porcine insulin.</p><p></p><p>Nuff said, except for one more thing - animal insulins are as far as I know quite a bit cheaper than synthetic, but I am not able to prove this, before I have some hard data, so it IS also possible I am wrong here...</p><p></p><p>Edited to add a little P.S. Human insulin and Human analogs are not identical...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mike@work, post: 2006398, member: 487115"] Hello [USER=375166]@Q4444[/USER] ! I have seen something like the scenario you have experienced. Was switched to Prothaphan (could be spelled a bit different in UK), with the consequence that I lost my hunger feelings. Can say I was not too happy, and when I mentioned the problem I got an answer like "No, no, that is not possible..." Well according to the lab rats, it is very possible for up to 2-3 % especially among switchers from animal insulins to human. As far as I know, you can DEMAND a change, but as theese insulins are considered "old-fashioned", I think you also need a good reason why you wish to change. I'm at this point still on Hypurin Bovine Lente, but that sort you will not be able to get any longer - supplies and "best before" run out in May, and no more are made. You will on the other hand, bee able to get long acting Hypurin Porcine Isophane and short acting Hypurin Porcine Neutral also in the future. I very recently got a new prescription with the Porcine variant. So, the only advice I can give you, if you really wish to switch, is to take up the fight. Keep in mind, that theese old insulins have different action curves than many new ones. On the other hand there are some noticeable differences in favor for the older ones in my opinion, such as: I have problems with (some?) synthetic insulins when BSLs are high - they have poor effect. Old animal sorts work in all cases. Synthetic have strong effect, when BSL already low, which increases Hypo risk. This is a known problem for many newer synthetic insulins. Animal insulins have only slightly noticeable increased effect when BSLs are low, at least on me. The discussion about human insulins not giving insulin resistance is old and clearly not true. Animal insulins of today are highly purified (Hypurin), and does not give more problems than synthetic. As a matter of fact, the only insulin you can get today, that is almost identical with your own body's insulin is Porcine insulin. Nuff said, except for one more thing - animal insulins are as far as I know quite a bit cheaper than synthetic, but I am not able to prove this, before I have some hard data, so it IS also possible I am wrong here... Edited to add a little P.S. Human insulin and Human analogs are not identical... [/QUOTE]
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