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<blockquote data-quote="Winnie53" data-source="post: 2227672" data-attributes="member: 160246"><p>Yes HSSS, it would definitely be better to hear Dr. Naiman explain it. It's very likely I'm not summarizing his Protein:Energy Ratio correctly. Apologies...</p><p></p><p>miffli, apologies to you too. Didn't mean to suggest that you're running high glucose levels because your carrying some excess weight. I should have been more thoughtful in my choice of words. I'm not that overweight either. I'm 5'3" and weigh 150 pounds so my BMI is 27, which is the mid-range of overweight. Here's a BMI chart if you want to calculate where you are... <a href="https://bmicalculator.mes.fm/bmi-chart" target="_blank">https://bmicalculator.mes.fm/bmi-chart</a></p><p></p><p>Too much fat intake can be a problem for some people on the keto diet. I'm one of them. You may or may not have that issue. I don't know. Without seeing your lab work and knowing more about you, I'm flying blind.</p><p></p><p>I also have no way of knowing how insulin resistant you are. To answer that question, I'd have to know your fasting insulin level and your fasting glucose level, convert the units to what's used in the US, and enter those numbers into a HOMA-IR calculator... <a href="https://www.thebloodcode.com/homa-ir-calculator/" target="_blank">https://www.thebloodcode.com/homa-ir-calculator/</a> I think there's a way to calculate insulin resistance with a fasting C-peptide level and fasting glucose level too. I'd have to look for it.</p><p></p><p>Did your doctor calculate your actual level of insulin resistant you are or is he just assuming you're insulin resistant?</p><p></p><p>There is a limit to how much fat cells can hold. Once they hit their limit, glucose levels start climbing. I looked around on the web. All I could confirm is that both carbs and fat stored in fat cells.</p><p></p><p>An excerpt from an article on Diet Doctor...</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><em>What happens if an overweight person overeats fat?</em></strong></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>Now, the situation for the obese, leptin resistant person. As you eat lots and lots of fat, insulin does not go up. However, that ‘fat bomb’ does indeed go directly into your fat stores. You respond by increasing leptin levels in your blood. But here’s the difference. Your body doesn’t care. It’s resistant to the effects of leptin. So, your metabolism does not go up. Your appetite does not go down. None of the beneficial weight loss effects of eating that ‘fat bomb’ happens. And yes, you will need to eventually burn off that extra fat you’ve taken in.</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>The practical implication is this. If you are lean and leptin sensitive, then eating more dietary fat, like cheese, will likely not make you gain weight. However, if you are trying to lose weight, and have some problem with obesity/ insulin/ leptin resistance, then adding extra fat to your meals is NOT a good idea. Once again, you can see that we do not need to go back to that outdated, and useless notion of calories. Obesity is a hormonal, more than a caloric, imbalance.</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>What can you do instead? Well, eating more carbs is not a good idea. Neither is over eating protein. Nor is eating more fat. So, what is left? That’s what we call fasting.</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p><p>For those who are members of Diet Doctor, here's a link to the entire article... <a href="https://www.dietdoctor.com/eating-extra-fat-make-fat" target="_blank">https://www.dietdoctor.com/eating-extra-fat-make-fat</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Winnie53, post: 2227672, member: 160246"] Yes HSSS, it would definitely be better to hear Dr. Naiman explain it. It's very likely I'm not summarizing his Protein:Energy Ratio correctly. Apologies... miffli, apologies to you too. Didn't mean to suggest that you're running high glucose levels because your carrying some excess weight. I should have been more thoughtful in my choice of words. I'm not that overweight either. I'm 5'3" and weigh 150 pounds so my BMI is 27, which is the mid-range of overweight. Here's a BMI chart if you want to calculate where you are... [URL]https://bmicalculator.mes.fm/bmi-chart[/URL] Too much fat intake can be a problem for some people on the keto diet. I'm one of them. You may or may not have that issue. I don't know. Without seeing your lab work and knowing more about you, I'm flying blind. I also have no way of knowing how insulin resistant you are. To answer that question, I'd have to know your fasting insulin level and your fasting glucose level, convert the units to what's used in the US, and enter those numbers into a HOMA-IR calculator... [URL]https://www.thebloodcode.com/homa-ir-calculator/[/URL] I think there's a way to calculate insulin resistance with a fasting C-peptide level and fasting glucose level too. I'd have to look for it. Did your doctor calculate your actual level of insulin resistant you are or is he just assuming you're insulin resistant? There is a limit to how much fat cells can hold. Once they hit their limit, glucose levels start climbing. I looked around on the web. All I could confirm is that both carbs and fat stored in fat cells. An excerpt from an article on Diet Doctor... [INDENT][SIZE=4][B][I]What happens if an overweight person overeats fat?[/I][/B][/SIZE] [I]Now, the situation for the obese, leptin resistant person. As you eat lots and lots of fat, insulin does not go up. However, that ‘fat bomb’ does indeed go directly into your fat stores. You respond by increasing leptin levels in your blood. But here’s the difference. Your body doesn’t care. It’s resistant to the effects of leptin. So, your metabolism does not go up. Your appetite does not go down. None of the beneficial weight loss effects of eating that ‘fat bomb’ happens. And yes, you will need to eventually burn off that extra fat you’ve taken in. The practical implication is this. If you are lean and leptin sensitive, then eating more dietary fat, like cheese, will likely not make you gain weight. However, if you are trying to lose weight, and have some problem with obesity/ insulin/ leptin resistance, then adding extra fat to your meals is NOT a good idea. Once again, you can see that we do not need to go back to that outdated, and useless notion of calories. Obesity is a hormonal, more than a caloric, imbalance. What can you do instead? Well, eating more carbs is not a good idea. Neither is over eating protein. Nor is eating more fat. So, what is left? That’s what we call fasting. [/I][/INDENT] For those who are members of Diet Doctor, here's a link to the entire article... [URL]https://www.dietdoctor.com/eating-extra-fat-make-fat[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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