The question also works in reverse.
As a T2 would you decide to inject insulin so that you could eat (more or less) anything on the menu?
I know at least one T2 who made that decision on diagnosis.
Test BG, calculate carbs in meal, inject.
No requirement to change lifestyle apart from insulin calculations.
I wouldn't because i hate needles and also am aware that hypos could affect my ability to drive.
However it does seem a valid choice.
Always assuming that you are not over producing insulin already, in which case I think it would make things worse not better.
The OP possibly made that decision.
However, not for me!
Exactly. There is a compulsive fervour about going to the extreme end of the spectrum, when it isn’t always necessary to do that.I think maybe more people eat LCHF than strictly *need* to, but I think many do so because they like it. It’s a fairly easy diet to follow, both at home and eating out, and I think people find it tasty - so why not? It seems like LCHF gets discussed by some as a “must do”, but for many it seems like a “like to do.” So, awesome. If you don’t have to eat LCHF AND don’t want to then don’t.
The only thing I get irked about is people thinking there is only one way for everyone and assuming anyone not managing diabetes their way is not in control, not healthy, etc. Personal preference, age, cultural differences, other health concerns, etc matter and should not be dismissed.
It is more important imo that everyone is given a least a choice of using dietary interventions at diagnosis of Pre Diabetes or Type 2 Diabetes. Whether someone thinks I personally go too far is immaterial because I am pro choice. When people say that moderate carbs are great then they also need to accept that some people make the choice to go lower carb for many reasons - just as many reasons as those who choose to use drug treatments do or those who choose to sit at moderate carb levels do.Exactly. There is a compulsive fervour about going to the extreme end of the spectrum, when it isn’t always necessary to do that.
If people eat to their meter then it will tell the individual how extreme or not they need to be.Exactly. There is a compulsive fervour about going to the extreme end of the spectrum, when it isn’t always necessary to do that.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s great to see those who elect to go moderately low carb being tolerated too. Excellent.It is more important imo that everyone is given a least a choice of using dietary interventions at diagnosis of Pre Diabetes or Type 2 Diabetes. Whether someone thinks I personally go too far is immaterial because I am pro choice. When people say that moderate carbs are great then they also need to accept that some people make the choice to go lower carb for many reasons - just as many reasons as those who choose to use drug treatments do or those who choose to sit at moderate carb levels do.
I can see a case for lowering carbs and for moderate carbs but I see no case for anyone saying moderate carb levels are fine for everyone because obviously it is not.
Yes. I can totally see why people eat to their meter. And a good thing that they do.If people eat to their meter then it will tell the individual how extreme or not they need to be.
I think maybe more people eat LCHF than strictly *need* to, but I think many do so because they like it.
Exactly. There is a compulsive fervour about going to the extreme end of the spectrum, when it isn’t always necessary to do that.
I’d be shocked if it were otherwise.Couldn’t agree more. It’s great to see those who elect to go moderately low carb being tolerated too. Excellent.
Some people might not need to but that’s not true for all.
Can you regulate your weight down by eating less fat?My BGs are OK on 80 to 100g carbs a day. However to lose weight I need to do keto which for me is 25g or less.
No I can't. Carbs are the key for me. If I have 25g or less then I can eat as much fat as I like. If I eat less fat and more carbs I gain weight.Can you regulate your weight by eating less fat?
Fat does not make you fat. Higher carbs than that which your body can tolerate plus fats can make you gain weight.Can you regulate your weight down by eating less fat?
That’s odd as there is a school of thought on here that says otherwise.Fat does not make you fat. Higher carbs than that which your body can tolerate plus fats can make you gain weight.
Think insulin responses and this becomes clear.
I refer to my increased fats as "balancing fats" - to balance out my intake, to prevent weight loss, without raising my blood sugars.
A very wise person I know reckons we moderate our carbs to satisy our blood glucose meters and we moderate our fats to satisfy the bathroom scales. It makes sense to me.
Preventing weight loss by protecting bodyfat stores. I do not see how you can miscronstrue DCUKs comment. Low carb to control bg but enough fats for satiety and for fuel.That’s odd as there is a school of thought on here that says otherwise.
That’s odd as there is a school of thought on here that says otherwise.
Preventing weight loss by protecting bodyfat stores. I do not see how you can miscronstrue DCUKs comment. Low carb to control bg but enough fats for satiety and for fuel.
I am merely trying to resolve contradictory statements. That’s all.Listlad, you seem to be looking for arguments.
The prevailing thinking on this thread has been for people to do what works for them.
Quoting people out of context, and implying some intolerant conspiracy is just trying to sow discord.
I am merely trying to resolve opposite statements. That’s all.
I have a personal reason for that as my weight has stopped dropping. And I eat a lot of fat.
Not seeking arguments as you suggest.
Not really if you put satiety into the equation. Is it actually physically possible to overeat on fats alone taking into account the very, very low insulin response to fats wrt to gaining bodyweight? Because we are all different whether we are aiming for weight loss, improved bg or both this can also change when we arrive at the state of satisfactory bodyweight and bg and then work to maintain. Which is exactly the theme of the OP.“.... and we moderate our fats to satisfy the bathroom scales”
That reads that we adjust our fat intake to achieve gains / losses in weight.
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