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<blockquote data-quote="CherryAA" data-source="post: 1629559" data-attributes="member: 327005"><p>The point of all this is that the order of events appears may be somewhat different than you describe. It is perfectly true that many diabetics have been eating and drinking the wrong things, not exercising and taking their health for granted. It is also true that many others in the population do exactly the same thing without the same consequences (yet). </p><p></p><p>Have you stopped to consider why you did those things? </p><p></p><p>An alternative way to think about it is that one's actions are strongly influenced by one's metabolic health. For much of the population, they get too high insulin responses to eating poor foods. Poor foods taint the entire food supply. For that part of the population these insulin responses then affect behaviours - for example they create hunger pangs that make you then eat more, they promote fat storage instead of fat usage, and they lead the brain to look to conserve energy by not moving much. This is a vicious circle. Thus all of your actions are indeed your actions, but you are much less in control of those actions than you think you are. That is why no matter how many times you are advised to eat less, move more, no matter how many times you yourself feel personally disgusted with yourself because you are fatter than the next guy, you still do not have the mental power to change things. You continue to think that that is because you are a failure as a human being and berate yourself , in reality it is all happening because you are suffering from a horribly disrupted metabolic signalling system. That initial disturbance is a function of genetics including the extent to which high insulin levels was passed onto you at birth. (hence the growing prevalence of fat babies) </p><p></p><p>So the diabetes diagnosis finally happens - diabetes is only really the next stage manifestation of something you have been suffering from for years - the metabolic disruption of hyperinsulinaemia. If you are very lucky, you will find out about low carbohydrates and realise that the answer is a real food diet. In practice both LCHF and VLC are actually low carb diets - ( VLC restricts the total quantities of food so much there is no room for it to be otherwise - even if carbs are a higher proportion of the total 800 calories than an LCHF person would use) .</p><p></p><p>The burning deck of the actual diagnosis, causes you to find out about these things. So you adopt a low carb way of life and the vicious circle that predated the diagnosis, finally becomes a virtuous circle. You lose weight, you feel fitter, you move more and you eat less. It remains hard to do, but nothing like the mountain you were climbing before. </p><p></p><p>As the diet progresses your hyperinsulinaemia reduces and at the same time mentally all those things that seemed unthinkable before ( Such as running ) become perfectly potentially possible. That is assisted mightily by the improvement in your metabolic health so that you are no longer receiving signals to sit still nor signals to eat more food laden with carbs. </p><p></p><p>Thus - yet is its perfectly true that you did all those wrong things originally, but it is also correct to say that the cause of those things was not wholly a function of how disgusting you were as a human being, and everything to do with the fact that we have been given the wrong advice and that the food supply is horribly tainted with things that are causing much of the world's population to follow the same path. We did not suddenly become feckless in the last 30 years, something changed and that something is the rise of food choices and dietary recommendations guaranteed to cause ill health. That is what you should be telling your HCP and the entire medical fraternity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CherryAA, post: 1629559, member: 327005"] The point of all this is that the order of events appears may be somewhat different than you describe. It is perfectly true that many diabetics have been eating and drinking the wrong things, not exercising and taking their health for granted. It is also true that many others in the population do exactly the same thing without the same consequences (yet). Have you stopped to consider why you did those things? An alternative way to think about it is that one's actions are strongly influenced by one's metabolic health. For much of the population, they get too high insulin responses to eating poor foods. Poor foods taint the entire food supply. For that part of the population these insulin responses then affect behaviours - for example they create hunger pangs that make you then eat more, they promote fat storage instead of fat usage, and they lead the brain to look to conserve energy by not moving much. This is a vicious circle. Thus all of your actions are indeed your actions, but you are much less in control of those actions than you think you are. That is why no matter how many times you are advised to eat less, move more, no matter how many times you yourself feel personally disgusted with yourself because you are fatter than the next guy, you still do not have the mental power to change things. You continue to think that that is because you are a failure as a human being and berate yourself , in reality it is all happening because you are suffering from a horribly disrupted metabolic signalling system. That initial disturbance is a function of genetics including the extent to which high insulin levels was passed onto you at birth. (hence the growing prevalence of fat babies) So the diabetes diagnosis finally happens - diabetes is only really the next stage manifestation of something you have been suffering from for years - the metabolic disruption of hyperinsulinaemia. If you are very lucky, you will find out about low carbohydrates and realise that the answer is a real food diet. In practice both LCHF and VLC are actually low carb diets - ( VLC restricts the total quantities of food so much there is no room for it to be otherwise - even if carbs are a higher proportion of the total 800 calories than an LCHF person would use) . The burning deck of the actual diagnosis, causes you to find out about these things. So you adopt a low carb way of life and the vicious circle that predated the diagnosis, finally becomes a virtuous circle. You lose weight, you feel fitter, you move more and you eat less. It remains hard to do, but nothing like the mountain you were climbing before. As the diet progresses your hyperinsulinaemia reduces and at the same time mentally all those things that seemed unthinkable before ( Such as running ) become perfectly potentially possible. That is assisted mightily by the improvement in your metabolic health so that you are no longer receiving signals to sit still nor signals to eat more food laden with carbs. Thus - yet is its perfectly true that you did all those wrong things originally, but it is also correct to say that the cause of those things was not wholly a function of how disgusting you were as a human being, and everything to do with the fact that we have been given the wrong advice and that the food supply is horribly tainted with things that are causing much of the world's population to follow the same path. We did not suddenly become feckless in the last 30 years, something changed and that something is the rise of food choices and dietary recommendations guaranteed to cause ill health. That is what you should be telling your HCP and the entire medical fraternity. [/QUOTE]
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