Cant seem to get control

sonofnesbit

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Hi all,
I found out I was type 2 about a month ago and got a tester on Thursday. I have started testing first thing in the morning, just before dinner and then 2 hours after. I just cant seem to get the numbers down. I have cut down on the portion size for my meals and I also take more exercise than I did before, but the numbers are still high. Maybe I'm expecting to much to quick, so any help would be good.
Thursday 1st thing 6.7
Thursday after dinner 5.6
Friday 1st thing 7.1
Friday before dinner was 7.9
Friday after dinner was 8.8
Saturday 1st thing 6.9
Saturday after dinner was 9.6
I'm 6ft and 15st 4 lbs lost 7lbs in 2 weeks
 

lucylocket61

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can you tell us what you had for meals?

daisy1 will be along soon to give you the information you need to help reduce your blood sugar levels.

at the moment, concentrate on working out how many carbohydrates (including sugars) you are having at each meal.
 

LittleGreyCat

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Your figures don't look too bad for someone who is just starting to get control.

I think you will probably see the best results as your weight comes down.

If you can keep that weight loss going you should see a real improvement!

Remember you are in this for the long haul - small improvements every week and larger improvements every month.

Don't get discouraged - you have made a really good start.

Cheers

LGC
 

sonofnesbit

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Hi, Hope you can understand the list below. Its the last 3 weeks, latest last. 1st column, 2nd lunch, 3rd dinner, where theres is only 2 columns no breakfast was had. Bacon was grilled, toast was seeded bread.


Wednesday 2x Bacon 2x egg 1x toast Fish home made chips (oven)
Thursday 2x Bacon 2x egg 1x toast Tuna salad Chicken Breast & Veg (Roast)
Friday Porridge Ham salad sandwich Beef stew (fresh veg)
Saturday Tea and 3 digestives Tuna salad pita Chicken breast/homemade chips
Sunday Toast Egg bacon wrap Gammon joint dry roasted


Monday Toast Egg bacon wrap Chili con carne
Tuesday Scrambled egg and Kippers on toast Meatball pasta bake
Wednesday Porridge Bacon beans 1 egg Kipper rice 1 poached eg
Thursday Porridge Tin soup Pie roast + potatoes
Friday Toast Fruit Cod
Saturday Toast Bacon sandwich Homemade vegetable soup
Sunday 2 Poached egg + 2 toast Fruit Roast chicken


Monday Readybrek Tin soup Homemade stew and fresh veg
Tuesday Ham rolls x2 Chicken Curry
Wednesday Crumpets Chicken Soup Haddock wrapped in bacon, veg
Thursday Ham sandwich Fish and chips
Friday Crumpets Crab salad Filled pasta
Saturday Poached egg, bacon, beans Chicken and lettuce wrap Chili con carne
 

sonofnesbit

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Hi LGC, I am certainly not being discouraged, I have treated it as a positive, to give me a kick up the bum to exercise more and lose weight. I will keep going, just a bit of help understanding the numbers.
BTW no meds, being controlled (or not) by diet and exercise.
Thanks for the advice
 

daisy1

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Hi Sonofnesbit and welcome to the forum :)

As Lucy mentioned, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

horatio

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All the above advice excellent
Last post v v informative

My experience since diagnosis

Initial HbA1c. Nov 2012 was 122
Mid dec 2012. 81
192 2013. 56

Weight loss 23 kg over last 8 months
Was 87 kg now 66 kg

How was this possible

On medication Metformin orally
Daily inj not insulin


More importantly

Exercise
Cut carbohydrates
Was only drinking 6 u a week have very little beer now
Maybe 1-2 u red wine/ week
Never smoked

Smaller portions of food
Needs self control!!
So possible to control
 

sonofnesbit

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Thanks for all the advice.
Gave up smoking 13 months ago, drink very little beer. I may well need to cut down on carbs. I will stick with it, and report back :D
As I say, thanks for taking the time to answer my plea for help.
Take care all
 

Yorksman

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Most people are surprised at the effect white bread has on blood sugars. A quick glance at your diet reveals things like sandwiches and toast. For many of us, these things are like spooning sugar into your coffee. Switch to wholegrain breads, it usually makes a difference. On the whole though, those figs are not bad. Just keep at it and tweak what you eat. It's a learning process as people react differently.
 

Joshman

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Yorksman said:
Most people are surprised at the effect white bread has on blood sugars. A quick glance at your diet reveals things like sandwiches and toast. For many of us, these things are like spooning sugar into your coffee. Switch to wholegrain breads, it usually makes a difference. On the whole though, those figs are not bad. Just keep at it and tweak what you eat. It's a learning process as people react differently.

I agree with Yorksman about the effect of white bread. I'd also say that many people find porridge can cause blood sugars to shoot up, that's certainly the case for me. Overall I'd say you're doing pretty good, keep at it!
 

sonofnesbit

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Thanks for the motivation folks.
I am eating seeded bread, which was actually quite a welcome swap, as it tastes so much better than the white stodge most people eat throughout their lives.
I will indeed continue to learn how best to cope, and hopefully will be able to offer advice to others at some stage
 

Daibell

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Hi. Your figures aren't too bad as someone else has said for a newly diagnosed. Yes, there are some things in your diet which could be tweaked. Watch out for sugar in soup and baked beans. Pies usually have high carbs. Pasta and bread need portion control. I buy low-GI bread from my local baker. Overall you're doing quite well and I would expect your readings to slowly reduce a bit.