Diagnosed on Friday. I don’t know what to do

Hotlic

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Hi everyone
I’m 34 years old and have just been diagnosed with type 2 on the Friday just gone. I’m very overweight and should’ve seen this coming but I’ve just been ignoring it.
I’ve been prescribed Metformin to start with and I’m just very worried about the side effects and what to do going forward in general. Over the last couple of days, I’ve felt so low. My family have been supportive but I know I need to do something else to address my problems and look at WHY I’ve let myself get to this stage.
I’m just wondering if anyone here has attended any residential weight loss type centres (not gym classes) here or even abroad who include diabetes as part of their programme and who address the psychological problems as well. I’m literally ready to pack my bags and leave this week.
I haven’t told any of my friends and don’t feel that I can right now despite knowing that most of them would be really supportive, so any help from you guys would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
 

Bluetit1802

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Hello and welcome,

You seem to be feeling much the same as many of us did when we were diagnosed. It is a huge shock. Good to hear your family is being supportive. That can make a big difference.

You are in the right place on this forum for all the advice and support you need. Who better to hear it from than fellow diabetics!

I will tag @daisy1 who will post some very useful information for newly diagnosed. It will help you if you read it all and follow some of her links. Meanwhile, have a good read round all the threads, and ask as many questions as you like.

Metformin is a safe drug, and will help you because it is an appetite suppressant, so helps the overweight more than the skinnies. It can give you tummy and bowel issues at first, but this normally passes in a couple of weeks. If it doesn't, speak to your doctor and ask for the slow release version, which is kinder on the tummy. Make sure you always take it with food.
 
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daisy1

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@Hotlic

Hello Hotlic and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope it will be useful for you. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be pleased to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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lowedb

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Hi. For some motivation, go and have a look at the success stories section of the forums. Taking control of this, and using the great advice on this site, you can turn it around.
 
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AM1874

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Hi @Hotlic .. and welcome
I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb and, like you and many others, I was a bit shell-shocked with little information and no real idea of what was happening to me. That said, you have certainly made a good move coming here .. since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

The key point to take on board now is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your blood glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that @ daisy1 has already been in touch and I suggest that you read up on the valuable information that she has sent you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

Unless you are given one by your Doc or Nurse (unlikely), it is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £29.49
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £58.98
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 4 or 5 times a day, before meals and two hours afterwards .. this enables me to monitor trends over time and to check which (if any) foods give me "spikes" .. some folk also test their fasting blood sugar. Testing costs me around £10 to £12 a month but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can manage them.

Hope this helps
 
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CherryAA

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Hi everyone
I’m 34 years old and have just been diagnosed with type 2 on the Friday just gone. I’m very overweight and should’ve seen this coming but I’ve just been ignoring it.
I’ve been prescribed Metformin to start with and I’m just very worried about the side effects and what to do going forward in general. Over the last couple of days, I’ve felt so low. My family have been supportive but I know I need to do something else to address my problems and look at WHY I’ve let myself get to this stage.
I’m just wondering if anyone here has attended any residential weight loss type centres (not gym classes) here or even abroad who include diabetes as part of their programme and who address the psychological problems as well. I’m literally ready to pack my bags and leave this week.
I haven’t told any of my friends and don’t feel that I can right now despite knowing that most of them would be really supportive, so any help from you guys would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!


Hi and welcome, i
If you really want to try and get on top of this and put some real effort into understanding it, can I suggest a cheaper way would be to download cron-o-meter, its a nutritional counter aimed specifically at those with metabolic illness including diabetes.

If you then work out what about 1g per kg of you fat free weight is ( i.e. where your height and an in deal weight would be in the green zone here. )
http://www.smartbmicalculator.com/?ru=0

Add to that about 30g of nutritional above ground vegetables . The cronometer will tell you what is 30g pur carbs from the actual wieght of stuff you buy in the shop ( which includes water)

That basically will tell you what you are aiming to eat with real foods, preferably spaced as far apart as you can manage.
You can add as much butter, oil and cream to that as necessary to feel full.

You can look at the "low carb" program on here, or the recipes in dietdoctor com
and watch in amazement as you stop feeling hungry and start losing weight .

If you do that for a few days until you understand the program , then have a go at putting in what your old diet was, you will find you quickly understand exactly why you got diabetes - too much sugar, too much processed foods, too much vegetable oils, not enough proper fats - eg butter and olive oil way too much " grazing" between meals.

A friend of mind about your age, did this, lost 30kg very quickly :) you can too. I would be quite wary aout paying someone else to do this for you, because at present there is a lot of misunderstanding out ther as to how to treat this and the best way of understanding i will be to follow the advice @daisy1 will supply shortly , which you can see how you are doing ti and understand what it means via cron-o-meter. ( i't's free) there are other similar apps if you don't like that one
good luck !
 
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Guzzler

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Hello and welcome to the group. We all remember clearly what is was like when we were diagnosed. The panic can take days or even weeks to subside. The thing that helped me the most was discovering this condition is one that I could take fully control of which was empowering. It was my choice to start learning what I could do to lessen the symptoms and lower the risk of complications. I am still learning but five months from diagnosis and I am no longer in panic mode and can even joke about it now, albeit that Diabetes is still that small voice of warning at the back of my mind.
Take time to read around the forum, ask as many questions as you like and start controlling Diabetes.
 

Daibell

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Hi and welcome. Metformin is very well tolerated by most apart from some people having bowel issues which can usually be resolved by changing to a Metformin SR (Slow Release) prescription. A low-carb diet is key to weight and blood sugar reduction as others have said. Beware weight loss 'centres' who follow the standard (but wrong) advice to reduce fats and perhaps increase carbs. Carbs are the main cause of weight gain. not fats or proteins.
 
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Resurgam

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Although it is quite common for weight gain to be blamed for diabetes - and all self inflicted, I suspect that the diabetes is the cause of the weight gain.
I have concentrated on controlling my blood glucose and eating low carb foods, but that has resulted in weight loss and my waist shrinking.
Rather than go for weightloss, which is not guaranteed to reduce your blood glucose, eating low carb should be a fast solution to the symptoms of diabetes and then weight loss will probably be a side effect. If not then at least there is likely to be more energy available for exercise and other options.
 
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