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jbelle

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Hello everyone. My name is Belle and I have been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes about one and half years ago.

Initially, My Dr has put me on Diamarcon 30mg and Glucophage XR 750mg x 1 tablet in morning.

Then he changed my Glucophage to Janumet and I had big issues, felt so sick and was admitted to hospital for abdominal distension! Immediately was stopped taking the Janumet

3 months ago, am on Diamarcon 60 mg and Glucophage XR 750 x 2 tablets.... one in morning and one after dinner.

And I have to "prick" myself daily x 2.

Have practically lost my appetite, feel nauseous, so tired even I had enough sleep, turned off with food. Is this normal??

Appreciate some advise. Thank you very much! !
 

leslie10152

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Hello everyone. My name is Belle and I have been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes about one and half years ago.

Initially, My Dr has put me on Diamarcon 30mg and Glucophage XR 750mg x 1 tablet in morning.

Then he changed my Glucophage to Janumet and I had big issues, felt so sick and was admitted to hospital for abdominal distension! Immediately was stopped taking the Janumet

3 months ago, am on Diamarcon 60 mg and Glucophage XR 750 x 2 tablets.... one in morning and one after dinner.

And I have to "prick" myself daily x 2.

Have practically lost my appetite, feel nauseous, so tired even I had enough sleep, turned off with food. Is this normal??

Appreciate some advise. Thank you very much! !
Welcome to the forum @jbelle. Sometimes you need to acclimatise to medication. I was on insulin from day one and it quite some time to get used to it.
 

azure

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Welcome @jbelle :)

Tagging @daisy1 for you.

How are your blood sugar results? High blood sugar can make you feel very tired.
 

Prem51

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Hi @jbelle and welcome to the forum. What is your diet like? A lot of the Type 2s on here have found that adopting a Low Carbohydrate High Fat (LCHF) approach to eating has reduced our blood sugar levels.
Have a read round the threads to see how this works and ask any questions you want to. the people on here are friendly and supportive and you will get a lot of good advice.
 

perry1960

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Hello Belle and welcome to the forum :)
 

AM1874

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Hi @jbelle .. and welcome
I agree with @Prem51 above .. lots of good folk here who will advise and support .. so, just ask your questions. I also agree that LCHF may well be what you are looking for but I think that you need advise about how this might work with the meds you are on.

If you do decide to follow the LCHF lifestyle, I suggest that you start by reading up on the Low Carb Program. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

The reason that I am suggesting LCHF is that it is centred upon three a very simple (but highly effective) logic ..
# Only eat real food
# Only eat when you are hungry
# Stop eating when you are full

Hope this helps
 
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daisy1

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@jbelle

Hello Jbelle and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

jbelle

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Welcome @jbelle :)

Tagging @daisy1 for you.

How are your blood sugar results? High blood sugar can make you feel very tired.
Hello azure, my sugar results..... when I was diagnosed was Hab1c was 11.8 and fasting 8.7
Last month, my Hab1c was 6.6 and fasting 5.1

Just feel so tired after taking the Meds on the new schedule plus no appetite and nauseous.

Just wondering if anyone else experiencing the same.
 
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jbelle

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi @jbelle and welcome to the forum. What is your diet like? A lot of the Type 2s on here have found that adopting a Low Carbohydrate High Fat (LCHF) approach to eating has reduced our blood sugar levels.
Have a read round the threads to see how this works and ask any questions you want to. the people on here are friendly and supportive and you will get a lot of good advice.

Thank you prem51 for your welcome.

My dr insisted that I must lose weight and adopt a low carb diet...... thank you for pointing out .....will have a read around and learn more
 
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jbelle

Member
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Type 2
Hi @jbelle .. and welcome
I agree with @Prem51 above .. lots of good folk here who will advise and support .. so, just ask your questions. I also agree that LCHF may well be what you are looking for but I think that you need advise about how this might work with the meds you are on.

If you do decide to follow the LCHF lifestyle, I suggest that you start by reading up on the Low Carb Program. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

The reason that I am suggesting LCHF is that it is centred upon three a very simple (but highly effective) logic ..
# Only eat real food
# Only eat when you are hungry
# Stop eating when you are full

Hope this helps

Hello am1874.... thank you for your welcome..... thank you for giving me the websites and info..... will check it out :)
 
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jbelle

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
@jbelle

Hello Jbelle and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
Hello daisy1..... that's a whole load of info for me to digest..... thank you very much. :)
 

azure

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Hello azure, my sugar results..... when I was diagnosed was Hab1c was 11.8 and fasting 8.7
Last month, my Hab1c was 6.6 and fasting 5.1

Just feel so tired after taking the Meds on the new schedule plus no appetite and nauseous.

Just wondering if anyone else experiencing the same.

That's a great improvement :)

If your nausea continues, it would be worth speaking to the doctor about it. It might not be related to your diabetes/meds, and even if it is, there might be some way to improve things.
 

Resurgam

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I had only a few weeks of feeling unwell due to the tablets - I think that I had just about all the side effects listed - but it was such a relief to stop them, and now, if I am ever tempted to eat something I should not I only need to tell myself that I might have to go back on the tablets if I get poor results and I suddenly develop a will of iron.
I get normal results now, just by eating low carb.
 
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Liam1955

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Hello @jbelle and Welcome to the Forum :).
 

jbelle

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
I had only a few weeks of feeling unwell due to the tablets - I think that I had just about all the side effects listed - but it was such a relief to stop them, and now, if I am ever tempted to eat something I should not I only need to tell myself that I might have to go back on the tablets if I get poor results and I suddenly develop a will of iron.
I get normal results now, just by eating low carb.

Thanks for your feedback, resurgam. Unfortunately, in my case, my dr does not allow me to stop until I get my results under control. So I got to do a combination of eating low carbs, exercise and meds
 

Daibell

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Hi. It's unusual for either Metformin Extended Release or Diamicron (Gliclazide in the UK) to cause stomach problems or nausea. Even Januvia is usually without problems. Do look for other possibilities besides the diabetes tablets. It may be you are an exception and need to find which tablets work for you. With a low carb diet you may even be able to do without any tablets?
 
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jbelle

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Hello Daibell, thank you for your feedback. Have read some threads on glucophage and it seems that some people are experiencing the similar side effects. Maybe my body needs time to get use to the meds.