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SkintDiva

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Hi, I am new to this site but very pleased to have found it as I hope to get some guidance on managing my Type 2 diabetes. I was diagnosed in 2007 and have been on diet only since then. I haven't found the NHS very helpful I am afraid. I have one appointment per year with the diabetic nurse and diet is never discussed and I had no idea about the relevance of carbs! I must be thick but don't recall that being mentioned at any stage. I am 64 and would like to live to a great age!
 
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sanguine

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daddys1

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Hi @SkintDiva, welcome to the forum, you have certainly come to the right place for lots of help and information plus a lot of support.

I will tag @daisy1 , she will be along with a long list of very helpful information we give to all new members.

Please look a round the forum and don't be afraid to ask what ever questions you need to.

Neil
 
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Erin

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Welcome SkintdDiva,

I love your dog! Regarding your diabetes 2 situation, I can tell you that I totally sympathize. May I recommend three books which I have found quite helpful with your questions:

"The Joslin Guide to Diabetes" by Richard S. Beaser, MD, (2nd ed.)

"The Johns Hopkins Guide to Diabetes: for Today and Tomorow" by Christopher Sauder, MD, Richard Rubin, Ph.D., and Cynthia Shump, R.N.

Fell's "How to Prevent, Control and Cure Diabetes" by Alterman, MD, FACP, et a. -- this book has quite a few dietary instructions.

I have a bad habit of eating carbs, especially when I have hypos.

Good luck and I am sure you will get good info. here.
 
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daddys1

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Hi @SkintDiva ,

Your not thick, I can tell you, I was diagnosed Pre Diabetic, on what I would call an already good diet, plenty of fish, cereal, carbs as per the NHS Eatwell Plate, I then introduced fruit and tried to lose some weight and lost a stone in 6 months, not bad. But I put myself into borderline diabetes which really annoyed me. As, had I known the situation with carbs, like I do now, I would not have been in that position.

I have now followed the 'Low Carb I would say Moderately Fat' diet, eating butter, Full fat Yogurt and eating all the fat on meat which I did not before. Cut down on the fruit Berries now, or very small portions i.e 1/2 apple with full fat yogurt.

Never felt better, lost weight & now out of the diabetic range.

You will learn a lot on here I'm sure.

Neil
 
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Daks

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Hi SkintDiva (what a name) and welcome to the forum, you're not thick at all. Unfortunately current NHS guidelines won't lean on or advise low carbing as a means of controling your diabetes, something most of us here know is the key to achieving good control.

Stick around, do heaps of reading and you'll soon catch up and gain good control.
 
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SkintDiva

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Welcome SkintdDiva,

I love your dog! Regarding your diabetes 2 situation, I can tell you that I totally sympathize. May I recommend three books which I have found quite helpful with your questions:

"The Joslin Guide to Diabetes" by Richard S. Beaser, MD, (2nd ed.)

"The Johns Hopkins Guide to Diabetes: for Today and Tomorow" by Christopher Sauder, MD, Richard Rubin, Ph.D., and Cynthia Shump, R.N.

Fell's "How to Prevent, Control and Cure Diabetes" by Alterman, MD, FACP, et a. -- this book has quite a few dietary instructions.

I have a bad habit of eating carbs, especially when I have hypos.

Good luck and I am sure you will get good info. here.
 

SkintDiva

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Thank you Erin! I am certainly going to find these articles/books for refernce. I know nothing about carbs whatsoever. Have just been avoiding sugar but steadily increAsing in weight.
 

SkintDiva

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Hi SkintDiva (what a name) and welcome to the forum, you're not thick at all. Unfortunately current NHS guidelines won't lean on or advise low carbing as a means of controling your diabetes, something most of us here know is the key to achieving good control.

Stick around, do heaps of reading and you'll soon catch up and gain good control.
 

SkintDiva

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Hey daks, glad you like my name, it sums me up I guess! Thanks for the welcome. Looking forward to getting some tips on how to manage better.
 

SkintDiva

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Hi @SkintDiva, welcome to the forum, you have certainly come to the right place for lots of help and information plus a lot of support.

I will tag @daisy1 , she will be along with a long list of very helpful information we give to all new members.

Please look a round the forum and don't be afraid to ask what ever questions you need to.

Neil
 

daisy1

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@SkintDiva

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. As you have seen from other members, diet, especially reducing carbs, is all important. This info contains a lot of advice on this. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help. Love your dog too!

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Daibell

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Hi and welcome. No, it's not you who are thick just the NHS and many dieticians when it comes to the best diet for diabetes. Stick around and do ask any questions.
 
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kimbo1962

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Hello @SkintDiva and welcome! So much excellent advice and support here from folks who know how it really is!!
 
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KateA

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Hi and welcome @SkintDiva . You will find the experience of others invaluable.