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Thyroid, PCOS & Now Diabetes

HardeepAsrani

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Hi people,

Today my best friend found out that she has Diabetes Type 2, stage one. Few years ago she was diagnosed with Thyroid, and just least year she was diagnosed with diabetes. And both thyroid and diabetes runs in her family. She's almost 19, and as someone who stays with her most of the times, I would want to know people who have some experience with this situation.

She used to eat a lot of junk food, just like any other teenager. So I know she will have to cut all the junk. But how often some junk food will not be a big issue? And how much.

And what about alcohol? And she is busy with her college, like a lot busy, so she can't join a gym, but I will probably make her walk a couple of KMs everyday with me.

What to do and now to do? Also breads - all breads are bad? What she should eat or avoid as a patient of all three diseases together.

Thanks for everything. Have a great 2016, everyone. May the force be with you. :)

Regards,
Hardeep
 
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Welcome to the forum .

I'm going to tag @daisy1 to provide you with some basic information that you can pass on to your friend, but you should try and encourage her to join the forum as it's a great place to receive help & support.

Well done for wanting to help your friend and have a great & healthy 2016.
 
Hi and welcome Hardeep

You have done a great thing finding the forum and asking your questions.

Is there any way that your friend could join up too? Or read the forum? There may be things that she might like to ask herself, and there are lots of people here who have had similar experiences.

Thyroid problems and diabetes often go hand in hand, and PCOS is very common too. I have it myself.

Could you just clarify whether your friend is a Type 1 diabetic, or a Type 2 diabetic? It can make quite a difference to the advice and help people give.

:)
 
@HardeepAsrani

Hello Hardeep and welcome to the forum :) To help you to help your friend, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will both find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome Hardeep

You have done a great thing finding the forum and asking your questions.

Is there any way that your friend could join up too? Or read the forum? There may be things that she might like to ask herself, and there are lots of people here who have had similar experiences.

Thyroid problems and diabetes often go hand in hand, and PCOS is very common too. I have it myself.

Could you just clarify whether your friend is a Type 1 diabetic, or a Type 2 diabetic? It can make quite a difference to the advice and help people give.

:)

Hi,

Sorry but I meant Diabetes Type 2, in the first sentence, not Thyroid type 2. :)
 
hi, I'm assuming your friend has pcos as well? That is one of the precursors to type 2 diabetes. I was diagnosed with pcos and type 2 diabetes the same day when I was 25. I was told I probably had pcos undiagnosed for quite some time. With this hormone condition it is suggested that many have too much insulin in their bodies because the body has problems using it (insulin resistance). But basically it can cause a number of other serious conditions such as diabetes if not treated.

For me I'm now on full time insulin therapy and probably no doubt the pcos contributed to the stress of my pancreas which lead to beta cell damage for me (causes insufficient insulin production). I don't have thyroid problems though, so can't comment about that.

I wish your friend all the best. :)
 
Interesting I have had PCOS for many years but not one doctor along the way said I could end up with T2 or even that there was a risk. I think the last gynecologist I saw just told me I was too fat, her words not mine. Bit more research for my very new journey I think.
 
Interesting I have had PCOS for many years but not one doctor along the way said I could end up with T2 or even that there was a risk. I think the last gynecologist I saw just told me I was too fat, her words not mine. Bit more research for my very new journey I think.

Yes, I was fortunately told from the start that my pcos diagnosis was why I had diabetes so young. I was told I has mature onset diabetes which I thought sounded funny at the time... of course it is the old name they used for type 2. There is a good fact sheet about pcos online by womens health... link: http://www.womenshealth.gov/publications/our-publications/fact-sheet/polycystic-ovary-syndrome.html

But yes, I definitely have the diabetes that they claim 50% of women with pcos get. I have hypertension and when my cholesterol is too high it is usually the LDL that is too high as well.
 
The factoid I read was that 50% of pcosers get T2 by the time they are 50 yrs old, with the % continuing to rise with age.

I see an endocrinologist for other stuff, and when I told him I had hit T2 (in my late 40s after 30 years of battling weight, insulin resistance and going lower and lower carb) he sort of shrugged sheepishly and said 'well, we knew it was going to happen, it was just a matter of when.'

And NOT ONE single health care professional had ever mentioned this before? Or given me any info/advice. Thanks!
 
The factoid I read was that 50% of pcosers get T2 by the time they are 50 yrs old, with the % continuing to rise with age.

I see an endocrinologist for other stuff, and when I told him I had hit T2 (in my late 40s after 30 years of battling weight, insulin resistance and going lower and lower carb) he sort of shrugged sheepishly and said 'well, we knew it was going to happen, it was just a matter of when.'

And NOT ONE single health care professional had ever mentioned this before? Or given me any info/advice. Thanks!

Sorry to hear that :( You'd think docs should know this by now. I was diagnosed in 1998.

I was fortunately referred to an endocrinologist when my GP at the time found my hbA1c was 8.2. From there the endocrinologist did all the checks on me and diagnosed me with pcos and diabetes the same day. It came as a shock to me. Of course it was explained to me about the pcos being a big risk factor at the time. But I'm so thankful I guess that I was referred to an endocrinologist to start with as they specialise in hormone conditions and not just diabetes.

PS. I'm really surprised your endocrinologist didn't bring it up... surely he should've checked this from the start? Not good for you. :(
 
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