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Liver dumping?

tpaz

tpaz

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Hello everyone!

I love the feedback and advice I receive on this forum - you are all great!

In the last month or so my BG #s have stabilized quite well. My fasting and after meal #s are normally good.

An issue that has been coming up, is that I'm having somewhat frequent liver dumps. For instance, tonight my bg was 6.8, an hour later it was 4.4, 2-3 hours later it had risen to 6. There's nothing really wrong with those numbers, but how often is a liver dump normal? I find this happens to me about 3 or 4 times a day, especially at night. Sometimes the liver dump will take my #s up to 7 or 7.5. I find myself testing like a maniac sometimes.

Is this something I should speak to my doctor about it no big deal?
 
My DN said that I should eat small amounts but often to help prevent liver dumps. She suggested that I did not leave it as long as five or six hours between meals. I suppose they could be more frequent if your blood sugar goes low. It's a bit of a balancing act.
 
Squire Fulwood said:
My DN said that I should eat small amounts but often to help prevent liver dumps. She suggested that I did not leave it as long as five or six hours between meals. I suppose they could be more frequent if your blood sugar goes low. It's a bit of a balancing act.
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Thanks Squire!

I struggle with this a lot - sometimes I'm not in the mood to eat, I'm just not hungry. it's very typical for me to go 5-6 hours without eating. Do you have a snack before bedtime?
 
Another reason could be that you are eating low GI food? which takes longer to raise blood sugars than non GI food. It can be 3+ hrs after your meal before you get the highest reading instead of the more normal 2hrs. Just a thought
 
13lizanne said:
Another reason could be that you are eating low GI food? which takes longer to raise blood sugars than non GI food. It can be 3+ hrs after your meal before you get the highest reading instead of the more normal 2hrs. Just a thought
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Thanks Lizanne!

Although I was eating that way some time ago, I'm just keeping it as healthy and lo carb as I can. So for Last night when My initial reading was 6.8, that was 2 hours after a 1/4 of a slice of cake. (I can't even imagine what a full piece would do) Then it went down to 4.4 then back up to 6.

There's 2 things I can't figure out:
How often is it ok to have these?
And how low does your BG have to be, for the liver to dump the glucose?
 
tpaz said:
Thanks Lizanne!

Although I was eating that way some time ago, I'm just keeping it as healthy and lo carb as I can. So for Last night when My initial reading was 6.8, that was 2 hours after a 1/4 of a slice of cake. (I can't even imagine what a full piece would do) Then it went down to 4.4 then back up to 6.

There's 2 things I can't figure out:
How often is it ok to have these?
And how low does your BG have to be, for the liver to dump the glucose?
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try missing out the cake altogether...I'm not sure your diet is really low carb if you are eating cake..
 
tpaz said:
Thanks Squire!

I struggle with this a lot - sometimes I'm not in the mood to eat, I'm just not hungry. it's very typical for me to go 5-6 hours without eating. Do you have a snack before bedtime?
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No I don't have a snack before bedtime. I am very fortunate in that since I have been eating low carb for a very long time my sugarstat doesn't let me get too high if I miss a meal.

"How often is it ok to have these?
And how low does your BG have to be, for the liver to dump the glucose?"

The technical term for no sugar in the blood is "Dead" so the body will supply sugar, if no food is eaten, in order to keep you alive. This will happen as often as necessary and be grateful for that.

It is generally regarded as hypo country if your reading goes below 4. The body must show some interest in that since further into a hypo is noticeable for many people. You had a reading of 4.4. Taking into account the potential inaccuracy of your meter and waiting another two hours I am not surprised you had a liver dump. I can't give a figure since I don't know it and it's probably different in other individuals.
 
tpaz said:
Thanks Squire!

I struggle with this a lot - sometimes I'm not in the mood to eat, I'm just not hungry. it's very typical for me to go 5-6 hours without eating. Do you have a snack before bedtime?
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I'm on my second day of a 3-4 day fast haven't quite decided yet).. just having tea with soy milk and coffee with soy milk and double cream.. I'm still alive..
 
tpaz said:
Hello everyone!

I love the feedback and advice I receive on this forum - you are all great!

In the last month or so my BG #s have stabilized quite well. My fasting and after meal #s are normally good.

An issue that has been coming up, is that I'm having somewhat frequent liver dumps. For instance, tonight my bg was 6.8, an hour later it was 4.4, 2-3 hours later it had risen to 6. There's nothing really wrong with those numbers, but how often is a liver dump normal? I find this happens to me about 3 or 4 times a day, especially at night. Sometimes the liver dump will take my #s up to 7 or 7.5. I find myself testing like a maniac sometimes.

Is this something I should speak to my doctor about it no big deal?
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It's completely normal.
When your BG gets low, your liver will naturally raise it.
 
SunnyExpat said:
It's completely normal.
When your BG gets low, your liver will naturally raise it.
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There's also a lot of evidence to suggest that glucose sourced from excess protein can also contribute to slightly elevated blood sugar levels and avoiding hypoglycemia. However, it doesn't necessarily seem to contribute to hyperglycemia for most people with type 2 (but it most common in people with type 1).

Some people also seem to have random issues with their bodies managing glucagon (the hormone opposite to insulin). That can also contribute to fluctuating blood glucose levels.
 
bulkbiker said:
try missing out the cake altogether...I'm not sure your diet is really low carb if you are eating cake..
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My diet is not super low carb. I eat 1 exchange of carbs per meal. I'm supposed to be trying to eat 2.

It was my hubs birthday last night, so I had a quarter of his slice
 
TorqPenderloin said:
There's also a lot of evidence to suggest that glucose sourced from excess protein can also contribute to slightly elevated blood sugar levels and avoiding hypoglycemia. However, it doesn't necessarily seem to contribute to hyperglycemia for most people with type 2 (but it most common in people with type 1).

Some people also seem to have random issues with their bodies managing glucagon (the hormone opposite to insulin). That can also contribute to fluctuating blood glucose levels.
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Hey Torque

Do you think it's something I should bring up with my doc, or is it not worth it?
 
tpaz said:
Hey Torque

Do you think it's something I should bring up with my doc, or is it not worth it?
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I absolutely think you should discuss it with your doctor. With that said, you need to prepare yourself for possible answers you may not wish to hear.

Many of us have a solid understanding of the dietary approach itself, but some people can have unusual health circumstances that may make the diet a poor choice.
 
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