About milk consumption

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I'm new. It seems that some are against drinking milk because of the carbs. Why? I drink fat free milk for the calcium & protein. As long as I count the carbs, is that ok? I consume 130 or fewer carbs per day & track total calories, carbs, protein, & calcium. I also eat lo-fat cheese. How does one get enough calcium?

 

[urbanracer]

I'm new. It seems that some are against drinking milk because of the carbs. Why? I drink fat free milk for the calcium & protein. As long as I count the carbs, is that ok? I consume 130 or fewer carbs per day & track total calories, carbs, protein, & calcium. I also eat lo-fat cheese. How does one get enough calcium?

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You set the rules on how many carbs are right for you, nobody else can decide for you.

 

[Totto]

I'm new. It seems that some are against drinking milk because of the carbs. Why? I drink fat free milk for the calcium & protein. As long as I count the carbs, is that ok? I consume 130 or fewer carbs per day & track total calories, carbs, protein, & calcium. I also eat lo-fat cheese. How does one get enough calcium?

But why low fat dairy?

 

[Brunneria]

Humans did not evolve by drinking milk produced by cows for baby cows.

Once we are weaned, we can easily eat enough calcium from nuts, seeds, pulses, leafy greens, fish (think tinned salmon with those wee bones in it) to flourish and grow strong bones and teeth. Even figs and oranges are excellent calcium sources, provided you don't mind the sugars.
http://greatist.com/health/18-surprising-dairy-free-sources-calcium

 

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But why low fat dairy?

I use low fat dairy to keep the calories under control..

 

[Emile_the_rat]

Because milk have lactose, the body break down lactose to glucose, and raises the blood suger.
The people on here against milk are most likely type 2 diabetics. Milk would be just fine for type 1 and LADA diabetics, just take a few more insulin units. Also milk are good to treat hypos in type 1, lada's and reactive hypoglycemics because it's high in carbs and fat. Fats helps the blood sugar to raise less rapidly and more stable.
So yes milk are just fine, even good in some cases for some diabetics. Only problem would be type 2 diabetics, which has to (or should) minimize there intake of carbs to help keep their blood sugar at good range.

 

[SunnyExpat]

Because milk have lactose, the body break down lactose to glucose, and raises the blood suger.
The people on here against milk are most likely type 2 diabetics. Milk would be just fine for type 1 and LADA diabetics, just take a few more insulin units. Also milk are good to treat hypos in type 1, lada's and reactive hypoglycemics because it's high in carbs and fat. Fats helps the blood sugar to raise less rapidly and more stable.
So yes milk are just fine, even good in some cases for some diabetics. Only problem would be type 2 diabetics, which has to (or should) minimize there intake of carbs to help keep their blood sugar at good range.

There is about 28g of carbs in a pint of skimmed milk.
I have no problem with a splash in coffee.
I would probably be fine with a lot more to be honest.

I'm type 2, but I have checked everything I eat with my meter, so I can speak from experience, and I would suggest the op does the same, as we're certainly not all alike, and what spikes some, doesn't spike others.

 

[Daphne917]

I probably drink about a 1/2 pint of full fat milk per day on cereal and in tea and coffee and my hba1c is 36 but not everyone has milk - some have cream or an alternative such as Almond or soya milk. It is really up to individual taste

 

[Totto]

I use low fat dairy to keep the calories under control..

I use more cream than milk as the fat is filling and gives me a better balance between carbs and fat. Same with cheese.

 

[Pinkorchid]

I don't worry about the very small amount of milk I have in my tea in a day
You can get lactose free milk if you are worried about the sugar in ordinary milk my husband makes his porridge with that

 

[SunnyExpat]

I don't worry about the very small amount of milk I have in my tea in a day
You can get lactose free milk if you are worried about the sugar in ordinary milk my husband makes his porridge with that

The lactose isn't removed.
Lactose free still has the sugar/carbs in it, it just has the digestive enzyme lactase added, so the lactose is already started down the digestive process.

 

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The lactose isn't removed.
Lactose free still has the sugar/carbs in it, it just has the digestive enzyme lactase added, so the lactose is already started down the digestive process.

Thanks for the clarification, Sunny! I always check the nutrition label so might have seen the carbs/sugars, but it's good to know that someone else knows.

 

[SunnyExpat]

Humans did not evolve by drinking milk produced by cows for baby cows.

Once we are weaned, we can easily eat enough calcium from nuts, seeds, pulses, leafy greens, fish (think tinned salmon with those wee bones in it) to flourish and grow strong bones and teeth. Even figs and oranges are excellent calcium sources, provided you don't mind the sugars.
http://greatist.com/health/18-surprising-dairy-free-sources-calcium

Interestly, quite the opposite.

This evolution of mankind, specifically developing the ability to digestive lactose, is actually quite a recent evolution. So recent in fact, it's not disseminated to the entire population yet.

If there is something that feels 'wrong' in drinking 'baby cow food', maybe you should think of it as cutting out the middleman, and not eating the baby cow instead. Nicely sliced and fried, obviously.
But it would be boring without cheese, butter, yoghurt, and other milk products, and of course, the baby chicken food, nutritious egg yolks. (And, with the baby chick, if you get the little black spot in there).

 

[uart]

Humans did not evolve by drinking milk produced by cows for baby cows.

Interestingly, quite the opposite. This evolution of mankind, specifically developing the ability to digestive lactose, is actually quite a recent evolution. So recent in fact, it's not disseminated to the entire population yet.

Actually, those two statements are somewhat closer to being in agreement than they are at being opposites???

 

[LittleGreyCat]

Skimmed milk is almost all sugar and water.
Not a major issue if you are counting carbs, but I prefer to use double cream because volume for volume it has more fat and less sugar.
I think one issue is that a lactose solution (much like a sugar solution) may be fast acting compared to lactose (or sugar) mixed with fats.

Answer, as always, is that everyone is different so "eat to your meter".

 

[SunnyExpat]

Actually, those two statements are somewhat closer to being in agreement than they are at being opposites???

Only if you take the word 'not' out of the first sentence.

 

[SunnyExpat]

Skimmed milk is almost all sugar and water.
Not a major issue if you are counting carbs, but I prefer to use double cream because volume for volume it has more fat and less sugar.
I think one issue is that a lactose solution (much like a sugar solution) may be fast acting compared to lactose (or sugar) mixed with fats.

Answer, as always, is that everyone is different so "eat to your meter".

You've missed out the important part of the answer to the op though.

Skimmed milk has the protein and calcium, cream has the calories.
So you would end up eating a massive load of calories to get the equivalent amount of calcium as a glass of skimmed milk. The carb difference is only around 2 or 3 g per 100ml.

As you say, 'eat to your meter', but make sure you get the right amount of vitamins and minerals as well. Sometimes you need to consider more than just fat.

http://www.milk.co.uk/page.aspx?intPageID=194

 

[uart]

Throughout most of our human evolution we did not require milk produced by cows for baby cows.

Yes. This evolution of mankind, specifically developing the ability to digestive lactose, is actually quite a recent evolution. So recent in fact, it's not disseminated to the entire population yet.

There, I fixed it for you.

 

[tpaz]

I choose to go with unsweetened soy milk sometimes I add Splenda into it, if I want it sweet.

Honestly, I'd rather "spend" the carbs elsewhere. Also, for those that have cholesterol issues, full fat milk is a no go.

 

[SunnyExpat]

There, I fixed it for you.

Glad you agree the quote needed changing, and we have evolved to drink milk.
But it's not my quote you changed in entirety, maybe you should have copied Brunneria in before changing what was written there?

It does seem an odd thing for you to get such a bee in your bonnet over, though, I do hope you're not going to keep re-writing all the posts on here into your own words?