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lynn007

lynn007

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I have heard that MSM powder is suppose to be good for Diabetes, Has anyone tried this?
 
lynn007 said:
I have heard that MSM powder is suppose to be good for Diabetes, Has anyone tried this?
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There's no evidence it works for anything it all. No research, no scientific testing, nothing, there's not even such a thing as sulphur deficiency, it's a snake oil. You'll find lots of claims for it amongst pedlars of unnecessary supplements, such as Holland & Barret, but if you look for actual studies, there are none.
 
ChrisSamsDad said:
There's no evidence it works for anything it all. No research, no scientific testing, nothing, there's not even such a thing as sulphur deficiency, it's a snake oil. You'll find lots of claims for it amongst pedlars of unnecessary supplements, such as Holland & Barret, but if you look for actual studies, there are none.
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It took me about a minute to unearth this study so your claim is false.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/03/03/msm-benefits.aspx
 
http://examine.com/supplements/Methylsulfonylmethane/

Only thing about diabetes is:

Interactions with Glucose Metabolism

In an animal model of autoimmune diabetes, 2.5% of the diet as MSM has failed to significantly alter the subsequent occurrence of diabetes (whereas DSMO increased the occurrence and dimethylsulfide decreased,[33] which may be due to the antioxidant potential of dimethylsulfide[34]).
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And in the bottom two studies are quoted.

The editors note is also worth reading.

Methylsulfonylmethane might just simply be a way to negate a sulfur deficiency, and secondary to the improvements in collagen synthesis and oxidant defense (glutathione enzymes) it exerts benefits.

If this is the case, then a protein rich diet (via cysteine and methionine intake), N-acetylcysteine (NAC) supplementation, and anything bound to sulfate would also hold benefit; that being said, the last one is likely in a subactive dose.

Sulfur deficiencies may also underlie why Glucosamine sulfate but not hydrochloride works, despite no pharmacokinetic differences in sulfate.
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it has very good reviews and 1 lady said that after 2 months on the msm powder she reversed her diabetes. A friend in Sweden told me this and she is well into alternative medicines
 
lynn007 said:
it has very good reviews and 1 lady said that after 2 months on the msm powder she reversed her diabetes. A friend in Sweden told me this and she is well into alternative medicines
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This is the problem with alternative therapies - the 'evidence' is very very poor - anecdotes aren't evidence, and people only listen to the anecdotes which re-affirm their already held

To me, the statement that 'she is well into alternative medicine' is a red flag indeed, I mean it's conceivable that there is an alternative medicine out there which will gain sufficient evidence to be classed as real medicine, but to be 'into it' in a general way shows a clear anti-science bias.

By the way, Dr Joseph Mercola, (or to give him his proper title 'Joseph Mercola') and his website is not a factual source, and anything issuing from it isn't worth examining for a grain of fact, you might as well believe something Boris Johnson or Donald Trump promises, or a news story in the Daily Mail about immigrants. He will print any old **** if it gets him links to his supplement and sunbed business website. He's been prosecuted several times for making misleading claims and caused a lot of suffering from lying to people about medicines and vaccines.

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html

When you say it was a 'study' that article is a marketing piece, it mentions peripherally some kind of study (without links) that showed at best that sulphur from the compound is used by the body - that doesn't mean you need a supplement of it, sulphur is so prevalent in almost everything we eat and it's almost unknown to have a deficiency in it. I did look up the research that was done and it was to guinea pigs and that's it measured - wow, if you eat a substance with sulphur compounds some of it gets used by your body.
 
well I suppose all to their own, I think it's worth a try to get rid of the pain I am in
 
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