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To snack or not to snack, dat is da question

DJ-dave

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Type of diabetes
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Hi everyone

Well, I figured something was up. This year I managed to loose 6 stone in 8 months. I've been on diets most of my life, had 1 or 2 extra pounds, and never really got anywhere.

So, after being practically dragged to my mid life health check, I was informed I had type 2 with a level of 102 and had probably had it for several years. Oh and they also mentioned that my cholesterol was off the chart....

4 months on and I'm still a bit in the dark as to what my level means, stacked up against what it should be. I'm a bit concerned about my feet, On the good side I no longer feel the cold in them.... saying that there's times when I don't feel them at all.

I have the habit to snack and whilst its not so good for me, the thought of actually sitting down to a full meal is a real turn off. One of the not so nice things about Metformin, not the worst thing admittedly and thank goodness for the slow release version. I was beginning to visualize the bathroom in pastel shades.
 
I will tag @daisy1 for you and she will post information on carbs and diet that all newcomers receive. I strongly recommend you read it thoroughly and follow all the links. There is a link right at the bottom for a low carb program that is free to join. Low carb will help your blood sugar, weight, and may help the neuropathy in your feet although the feet depends on how much permanent damage has already been done. It will certainly help prevent more damage. Welcome to the forum and please ask any questions you may have.
 
You might want to read this opinion piece by a Canadian nephrologist on why snacking is a very bad idea for Type 2's - if the aim is to reduce insulin resistance, continually causing our insulin to be raised won't help:
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/perils-snacking-hormonal-obesity-xiii/
Thanks you so much for posting this.
What struck me was the information about children and snacking.
I have worked with children for over 20 years. Parents can't even go to the park for a hour with out having a bag full of food just in case.
The Selves of snack food in pantries in families homes is astonishing. These are not whole health foods. Full of sugar, salt, and preservatives.
Then when they do sit at the table for a meal they can't figure out why the kids won't eat.
 
@DJ-dave

Hello Dave and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. This should help with filling some of the gaps. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi everyone

Well, I figured something was up. This year I managed to loose 6 stone in 8 months. I've been on diets most of my life, had 1 or 2 extra pounds, and never really got anywhere.

So, after being practically dragged to my mid life health check, I was informed I had type 2 with a level of 102 and had probably had it for several years. Oh and they also mentioned that my cholesterol was off the chart....

4 months on and I'm still a bit in the dark as to what my level means, stacked up against what it should be. I'm a bit concerned about my feet, On the good side I no longer feel the cold in them.... saying that there's times when I don't feel them at all.

I have the habit to snack and whilst its not so good for me, the thought of actually sitting down to a full meal is a real turn off. One of the not so nice things about Metformin, not the worst thing admittedly and thank goodness for the slow release version. I was beginning to visualize the bathroom in pastel shades.


Hello :)

welcome !! I am a type 1 sweeter human, do you test your levels allot ? I go through phases of wanting to snack, but I am on novo rapid, and don't like the extra jab it will cost me haha! i hope that your feet feel better soon, and you can just wear socks to keep the cold away!

x
 
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