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Obesity: How Prejudiced is the NHS?

serenity648 said:
I cannot view the video here. I notice you focused on the baby, not the rest of my comments.
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Here is a still from the video that you can't see. The baby can't even hold the food let alone chew it. If you think this is fine, then that is your opinion. I don't and that's my opinion.

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Avocado Sevenfold said:
Here is a still from the video that you can't see. The baby can't even hold the food let alone chew it. If you think this is fine, then that is your opinion. I don't and that's my opinion.

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I didnt say it was OK to give a baby, who cant chew, a piece of hamburger. I replied to the rest of your post. The problem with this whole forum is that someone posts something inflammatory and judgmental, then swoops on anything at all, in a whole post or series of posts, which they can seize on, and tries to turn the whole focus of the subject. I am sick of it.

If a parent is giving a 5 month old baby food, then that is a whole other can of worms, and nothing to do with the focus of the documentary. You have extrapolated a view, based on an assumption.
 
serenity648 said:
I didnt say it was OK to give a baby, who cant chew, a piece of hamburger. I replied to the rest of your post. The problem with this whole forum is that someone posts something inflammatory and judgmental, then swoops on anything at all, in a whole post or series of posts, which they can seize on, and tries to turn the whole focus of the subject. I am sick of it.

If a parent is giving a 5 month old baby food, then that is a whole other can of worms, and nothing to do with the focus of the documentary. You have extrapolated a view, based on an assumption.
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Sick of the forum? You are not the only one. My original comment, that you found so judgemental, was my comment to Torq that I am no longer shocked by images of people being cut out of their homes to be taken for surgery, but that I am shocked that a baby is having a big burger stuffed in her face. This was the part of the documentary that stuck out for me. That was my focus.

Ironic that you are assuming that I am making assumptions. The grandfather was eating 30,000 calories a day but I made no assumption of what he was eating. I only cared about what the baby was eating :banghead:
 
douglas99 said:
I didn't care if it was carbs, fats, protein.
I could live on pork scratchings, a pig at a time, no problem getting fat cravings for the next empty pig.
Protein, the same, I could eat a steak followed by the protein cravings for another steak.

Now I just stop eating, before I get fat again.
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I understand what your saying. For me however carbs even whole grain rice and quinoa seem to set me off to intense cravings. So I'm just better off not eating grains and most root vegetables because it seems to trigger that in me.
 
Please will everyone keep to topic of thread.
Also, if individual members have issues with other members, please use PM system, and keep it polite.
 
Avocado Sevenfold said:
She was a tiny little baby. If thinking that stuffing a tiny little baby with burgers and fries makes me judgemental, then I am happy to be called judgemental.

A. tiny. little. baby.
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I have to agree. It is sooooo wrong for babies to be eating junk food. A treat is a biscuit or a bit chocolate not burger and chips.
That baby won't be ready for such processed foods.
A treat at 4 or 5yr old maybe but a tiny version and fresh beef burger, nothing processed.
It would be like feeding a baby a coffee or full sugar pepsi or coke acola. @serenity648 .
I'm not criticising your comments. I just needed to note babies shouldnt be fed such rubbish.
 
@ickihun
Please see my post #146 where I asked that the thread be kept on topic.
Just to remind everyone, the topic is 'Obesity: How Prejudiced is the NHS?'
 
It just goes to prove if diabetics show prejudice against what Obesity is all about. What chance has the nhs?

We are all entitled to an opinion and freedom of speech.

I think what upsets people most is the caring profession has changed so much that only the odd frontline staff have the opportunity to care anymore. Understaffing doesn't give them the luxury of caring well for their patients.
I myself haven't experienced any prejudice in a&e about my obesity. We were all treated the same.
I think the prejudice in the programme referred to was from the decision makers not front line staff and consultants.
 
ickihun said:
I think the prejudice in the programme referred to was from the decision makers not front line staff and consultants.
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I do think this is an interesting and valid point.
The NHS also has a 'postcode lottery'. This, I believe will become more prevalent as Clinical Commisioning Groups will have more responsibility for making local decisions on health priorities.
I know of several people who are overweight, or obese and in need of orthopaedic interventions. Although they have been referred to NHS Orthopaedic consultants, they are being screened by physiotherapists, or nurses before they are allowed to have an appointment with the consultant. If they are above a certain BMI, they are refused access to the service their GP believes they need. The justification given is that it is the CCG, (many of the people in these groups are not clinically trained) that sets the criteria.
 
I think its ccg who have asked for my insulin type to be changed.
I am using heavy doses due to severe insulin resistance. R-ala helps but ccg don't recognise it as a valuable tool to reducing insulin doses.
 
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