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Unexpected rise in fasting blood sugar.

Dadbod

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi all,

i'm a 45 yr old male diagnosed with T2 in May 2016. My fasting BG was approx 8 mmol/l back then. When they started me on Bydureon late last year my fasting BG went up to 13 mmol/l .... after 9 weeks i stopped taking it and started metformin and dulglutide....my fasting BG dropped tp approx 8/9 mmol/l again and my 2 hr pp to about 10 mmol/l . I was 390 lbs then and as a last ditch attempt to lose weight ...and i mean last ditch, i asked my GP to refer me for bariatric surgery. My BMI was 52 and i was desperate. I didn't realise that this region of the UK doesn't offer bariatric surgery and i was subsequently refused treatment on the NHS.......This was fair enough as it encouraged me to sit down at my pc and determinedly search for an alternative. I very quickly discovered LCHF. I thrive on simplicity so after many days of reading various ways of cutting carbs i opted for the eat only meat, dairy and very very limited veg (2/3 portions per week) .. 3 days after starteing this way of eating i dropped all medication and my BG normalised (fasting avg 6.8 and 2hr pp 5.5 - 6 mmol/l) ..... Heres' my problem though....i need some advice. This morning my BG was suddenly 8 mmol/. The only difference was that i ate fried cabbage and onion for dinner at around 5.30pm.
Does anyone have any experience of cabbage raising BG?? I've taken dawn phenomenon into consideration...my BG is never over 7.2 early morning since starting very low carb diet.. Any and all advice appreciated.
p.s. I have lost 16lbs in one month just by cutting out carbohydrates :)
 
@Dadbod, Welcome to the forum!

Amazing progress in your glucose/insulin reduction. Don't worry too much about your fasting BG at this time. Focus more on maintaining good post meal glucose.

Have a read at Dr Jason Fung's take on the dawn phenomenon.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/dawn-phenomenon-t2d-8/
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Think about it this way. The Dawn Phenomenon is simply moving sugar from body stores (liver) into the blood. That’s it. If your body stores are filled to bursting, then you will expel as much of that sugar as possible. By itself it is neither good nor bad. It is simply a marker that your body has too much sugar. Solution? Simple. Either don’t put any sugar in (LCHF) or burn it off (Fasting). Even better? LCHF + IF
 
Hi all,

i'm a 45 yr old male diagnosed with T2 in May 2016. My fasting BG was approx 8 mmol/l back then. When they started me on Bydureon late last year my fasting BG went up to 13 mmol/l .... after 9 weeks i stopped taking it and started metformin and dulglutide....my fasting BG dropped tp approx 8/9 mmol/l again and my 2 hr pp to about 10 mmol/l . I was 390 lbs then and as a last ditch attempt to lose weight ...and i mean last ditch, i asked my GP to refer me for bariatric surgery. My BMI was 52 and i was desperate. I didn't realise that this region of the UK doesn't offer bariatric surgery and i was subsequently refused treatment on the NHS.......This was fair enough as it encouraged me to sit down at my pc and determinedly search for an alternative. I very quickly discovered LCHF. I thrive on simplicity so after many days of reading various ways of cutting carbs i opted for the eat only meat, dairy and very very limited veg (2/3 portions per week) .. 3 days after starteing this way of eating i dropped all medication and my BG normalised (fasting avg 6.8 and 2hr pp 5.5 - 6 mmol/l) ..... Heres' my problem though....i need some advice. This morning my BG was suddenly 8 mmol/. The only difference was that i ate fried cabbage and onion for dinner at around 5.30pm.
Does anyone have any experience of cabbage raising BG?? I've taken dawn phenomenon into consideration...my BG is never over 7.2 early morning since starting very low carb diet.. Any and all advice appreciated.
p.s. I have lost 16lbs in one month just by cutting out carbohydrates :)

Hi there, Dadbod.

You've had an interesting time with your diabetes so far. You might fare better for replies, if your post was created as a thread of it's own? Would you like me to move this post to an area where you might be more exposed to replies?

It can stay here if you prefer. Just let me know and myself or one of the other Mods can sort it out.
 
Hi there, Dadbod.

You've had an interesting time with your diabetes so far. You might fare better for replies, if your post was created as a thread of it's own? Would you like me to move this post to an area where you might be more exposed to replies?

It can stay here if you prefer. Just let me know and myself or one of the other Mods can sort it out.
Hi there....sorry, i'm new and not too tech savvy. I wondered why the the box said 'reply' at the top but couldn't see any other way of posting lol :) ...Yes indeed, move it to wherever you feel it suits best....thank you.
 
@Dadbod, Welcome to the forum!

Amazing progress in your glucose/insulin reduction. Don't worry too much about your fasting BG at this time. Focus more on maintaining good post meal glucose.

Have a read at Dr Jason Fung's take on the dawn phenomenon.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/dawn-phenomenon-t2d-8/
[
Think about it this way. The Dawn Phenomenon is simply moving sugar from body stores (liver) into the blood. That’s it. If your body stores are filled to bursting, then you will expel as much of that sugar as possible. By itself it is neither good nor bad. It is simply a marker that your body has too much sugar. Solution? Simple. Either don’t put any sugar in (LCHF) or burn it off (Fasting). Even better? LCHF + IF
Hi...Thank you, it's not easy to walk the line between close observation and fanaticism :) .... I have found that monitoring my BG many times during a day offers an oblique and effective approach to steady weight loss...focusing on keeping those numbers within a narrow range is almost like a game which distracts me from the fact that i've dropped 90% of my former everyday foods.lol
 
Hi there....sorry, i'm new and not too tech savvy. I wondered why the the box said 'reply' at the top but couldn't see any other way of posting lol :) ...Yes indeed, move it to wherever you feel it suits best....thank you.

No need to apologise. I'd just like to see you get plenty of replies. I'll move it now.
 
@Dadbod, Welcome to the forum!

Amazing progress in your glucose/insulin reduction. Don't worry too much about your fasting BG at this time. Focus more on maintaining good post meal glucose.

Have a read at Dr Jason Fung's take on the dawn phenomenon.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/dawn-phenomenon-t2d-8/
[
Think about it this way. The Dawn Phenomenon is simply moving sugar from body stores (liver) into the blood. That’s it. If your body stores are filled to bursting, then you will expel as much of that sugar as possible. By itself it is neither good nor bad. It is simply a marker that your body has too much sugar. Solution? Simple. Either don’t put any sugar in (LCHF) or burn it off (Fasting). Even better? LCHF + IF
That's a very interesting article ref Dawn Phenomenon.....thanks.
 
Hi @Dadbod, try not to worry about a blip in your fasting numbers. It could be a something on your hands, a cold brewing or stress response.
 
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