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welshborn

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I had a urine dip test for an unrelated condition which showed high levels of sugar and a trace of ketones. I therefore contacted my GP surgery and was told I needed two blood tests.

I haven't seen my GP yet but my first blood test was a HBA1C test which came back very high, 112!

I was told I needed another blood test two weeks later. I was wandering if anybody might have an idea what this second blood test is for. My GP surgery were not very forthcoming, all they say its the same test as before, is this correct? This test is due next week.

I'm obviously very worried especially with the first blood test coming back so high. Hopefully after this second blood test my GP will request I book an appointment to see him so I can get some advice and treatment.

Any advice /help would be very much appreciated

Many thanks
 
Hi welshborn welcome to the forum. Tagging @daisy1 for a new member post for you.

Many on the forum report having had two tests to confirm diagnosis.
 
Hello and welcome.

It is standard to repeat the HbA1c test to rule out lab error or mistakes made by clerical staff, it is to confirm a diagnosis. You will be contacted with your results if indeed they confirm a diagnosis, if not the you must contact your surgery to arrange to see your health care provider.
I will tag @daisy1 who will post a welcome pack, it is worth reading it carefully as it has a lot of the information you will need with regard to Diabetes and its treatment.

I do hope that your test result does not prove to be a confirmation but if it is then there are plenty of options for you to consider, all is not lost.
 
it should be a repeat of the hba1c it needs two to confirm it. however being honest that is high. so prepare yourself. read as much as you can on diabetes. try not to worry the dangerous bit is not knowing. it would have been wise for your doctor to have done a test for ketones as well. if in the wait you start feeling ill get yourself straight to either your doctors or the a&e department. no bravely is allowed ifyou get ill. i will tag @daisy for the welcome info. and hello we are here for you.
 
Hi,
It is normal to have two tests, 112 is very high. Are you having symptoms of diabetes?
Take care
 
@welshborn

Hello Welshborn and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 259,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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I had a urine dip test for an unrelated condition which showed high levels of sugar and a trace of ketones. I therefore contacted my GP surgery and was told I needed two blood tests.

I haven't seen my GP yet but my first blood test was a HBA1C test which came back very high, 112!

I was told I needed another blood test two weeks later. I was wandering if anybody might have an idea what this second blood test is for. My GP surgery were not very forthcoming, all they say its the same test as before, is this correct? This test is due next week.

I'm obviously very worried especially with the first blood test coming back so high. Hopefully after this second blood test my GP will request I book an appointment to see him so I can get some advice and treatment.

Any advice /help would be very much appreciated

Many thanks
You should have two blood tests at least two weeks apart to confirm diabetes
 
Many thanks all for your replies and advice.

The only symptoms I had were the frequency of my toilet breaks, especially at night but I took this to be due to an ongoing urological issue. Since I first had the dip test I have been on a diet and am exercising a lot more than I used to and these symptoms seem to have improved hell of a lot. I drink 2 litres of water a day so was rarely thirsty!

I bought a glucose measuring device 3 week ago and my blood sugar has gone from16.8 (ouch) to 10 and a fasting test taken Friday was 6.8. These tests are sometimes I learnt not always too reliable, but it is a guide for me.

I am prepared a lot more now to be diagnosed when it happens, mainly down to the friendly help and advice available on these forums.

Many thanks again
 
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