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Trigs and Cholesterol and STATINS

mountaintom

mountaintom

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Hi all,

Just got my results back from quarterly bloods. I’m 37 and was diagnosed T1 and with Hypertriglyceridemia at the start of January this year with a Trig count of 12 (eek!), cholesterol total of 9. Now after giving up beer and taking Rosuvostatin 20mg a day I’ve come back with trigs at 1.6 and cholesterol of 4.9.
My HBA1C came back at 7.5% which I am very happy about. It was 12-14% when I was diagnosed.
Hip hip hooray!
 
mountaintom said:
Hi all,

Just got my results back from quarterly bloods. I’m 37 and was diagnosed T1 and with Hypertriglyceridemia at the start of January this year with a Trig count of 12 (eek!), cholesterol total of 9. Now after giving up beer and taking Rosuvostatin 20mg a day I’ve come back with trigs at 1.6 and cholesterol of 4.9.
My HBA1C came back at 7.5% which I am very happy about. It was 12-14% when I was diagnosed.
Hip hip hooray!
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very well done mountaintom keep up the good work ;)
 
Congratulations. Your much braver than me though, I refuse to go near the Statins. In Australia the public broadcasting (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ran 2 special episodes on Statins on their premiere science show and it was very Damming. Naturally don't do anything without consulting you Dr. They have appeared on the Net.
- Explains cholesterol
- Statins
 
Thanks guys.
Yes I know they get a bad rep and that’s precisely why I wanted to share a positive statin story.
 
NicoleC1971 said:
Good work!
Did you get a breakdown on the HDL part of that cholesterol ouot of interest?
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Not yet I just jotted down the numbers. Those results were actually non fasting bloods. Should I expect better results from the fasting bloods I had taken today?
 
mountaintom said:
Erm you can have my trigs of 12 if you want...
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Not especially but if your total cholesterol was 9 then your trigs can't have been 12...unless you have a negative something.. have you discovered the cholesterol equivalent of anti-matter? At least I don't think they can have been.
 
I have my suspicions that quitting beer has been the main factor in lowering my numbers. I drank a lot for many years.
 
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/interesting-new-piece-from-dr-zoe-harcombe.141287/

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1) Raised cholesterol (defined as ≥ 5.0 mmol/L) was inversely associated with CVD deaths in most countries.

I found the same using World Health Organisation data for all 192 countries of the world in 2010 (Ref 7). For men and women in Europe, North Africa, Asia & Oceania and America, raised cholesterol was associated with lower CVD deaths. The inverse relationship was particularly strong in Europe where it was an identical -0.79 for men and women. That’s strong.
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So two things on cholesterol and statins; firstly cholesterol below 5 looks risky; secondly read the side effects of statins - they can impact blood glucose control and also increase the risk of developing diabetes.

Well done for addressing your symptoms and taking control.

It might be worth reading a little more about cholesterol levels and risk, versus statins and the risks.
 
LittleGreyCat said:
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/interesting-new-piece-from-dr-zoe-harcombe.141287/

"
1) Raised cholesterol (defined as ≥ 5.0 mmol/L) was inversely associated with CVD deaths in most countries.

I found the same using World Health Organisation data for all 192 countries of the world in 2010 (Ref 7). For men and women in Europe, North Africa, Asia & Oceania and America, raised cholesterol was associated with lower CVD deaths. The inverse relationship was particularly strong in Europe where it was an identical -0.79 for men and women. That’s strong.
"
So two things on cholesterol and statins; firstly cholesterol below 5 looks risky; secondly read the side effects of statins - they can impact blood glucose control and also increase the risk of developing diabetes.

Well done for addressing your symptoms and taking control.

It might be worth reading a little more about cholesterol levels and risk, versus statins and the risks.
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Thanks for the info. I find the current controversy around statins frustrating. Why would the medical profession get it so wrong? Are you suggesting that there is a conspiracy?
My mother died at 65 from cvd and her father died at a similar age (I never met him). So I am perhaps genetically disposed to higher levels if diet and exercise is not a primary focus in life and if alcohol and smoking are.
What do you suggest I do? Ignore medical advice? Take advice from the internet?
I already have diabetes and my blood glucose control is good.
I will probably try my next quarterly without the statins and see if it IS just quitting the beer that has lowered them.
 
mountaintom said:
Now after giving up beer and taking Rosuvostatin 20mg a day
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I expect it was mostly giving up the beer that made the numbers look better, but Rosuvostatin reduces the risk (a little) of having bad numbers.

mountaintom said:
I find the current controversy around statins frustrating. Why would the medical profession get it so wrong?
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The problem is that it takes many years to see any benefit, and the benefit is small to each person, but if you look at a population level the claimed benefit is very meaningful. As very few people will have heart problems within 5 years, it is hard to tell if statins have reduced them. There is also the issue that statins may just change what you die from, without changing how long you live.

statins clearly greatly benefit a few people, the issue is that we can't tell from blood tests who will benefit from taking statins....
 
Hey at least we know for sure that smoking and drinking is b****y bad for you.

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