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Type 2 Elevated HBA1C result

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So got a call last week from my doctor's surgery with my latest HBA1C results saying that it had increased from 55 (my previous result before this one) to 75 and have an appointment tomorrow to discuss this I am quite a bit nervous about what tomorrow will entail.
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers.

Could you tell us a bit more about yourself, please? This will mean appropriate advice and information is more likely. Things like medication, diet and if you could confirm the type of Diabetes you have.

Have a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.
 
How have you been treating your Diabetes after the initial test ?

Good luck with the GP appointment, hope it is a positive experience and your doctor is helpful.
 
@Grahammilne1994
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS



Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
How have you been treating your Diabetes after the initial test ?

Good luck with the GP appointment, hope it is a positive experience and your doctor is helpful.
Hi there sorry it's took me a while to reply I was taking 1 1MG Metformin morning and night but that's changed as my doctor has told me to double the dosage so it's now 2 in morning and 2 at teatime
 
Hi there sorry it's took me a while to reply I was taking 1 1MG Metformin morning and night but that's changed as my doctor has told me to double the dosage so it's now 2 in morning and 2 at teatime

It would save us having to keep asking which meds you are on and which type of diabetes you have if you would complete these details in the personal details section of your profile settings. Not knowing could lead to inappropriate advice.
 
Please outline what you normally eat and drink.
Well I always stick with the low calorie sugar free drinks or water as for food it really does depend but I always try to keep the contents as low a sugar content as possible been looking around here for some recipes or tips on more creative ways to cook and what I can use.
 
It would save us having to keep asking which meds you are on and which type of diabetes you have if you would complete these details in the personal details section of your profile settings. Not knowing could lead to inappropriate advice.
Hi there any chance you can guide me to that as I use the mobile app and can't seem to find that thanks
 
So got a call last week from my doctor's surgery with my latest HBA1C results saying that it had increased from 55 (my previous result before this one) to 75 and have an appointment tomorrow to discuss this I am quite a bit nervous about what tomorrow will entail.
It's not just about reducing your intake of sugary foods Grahammilne1994. Carbohydrsates convert to glucose in the body. Try to reduce your intake of the bad carbs, potatoes, white bread, rice and pasta and watch how much veg and fruit you eat as they are usually moderate/high in carbs. Many of us on this site eat very low levels of carbs and get our energy by eating fat. I know it flies in the face of medical advice to eat a lot of fat, but that advice is gradually changing. Many of us believe the evidence that carbs are the real enemy not fat. Good luck.
 
It's not just about reducing your intake of sugary foods Grahammilne1994. Carbohydrsates convert to glucose in the body. Try to reduce your intake of the bad carbs, potatoes, white bread, rice and pasta and watch how much veg and fruit you eat as they are usually moderate/high in carbs. Many of us on this site eat very low levels of carbs and get our energy by eating fat. I know it flies in the face of medical advice to eat a lot of fat, but that advice is gradually changing. Many of us believe the evidence that carbs are the real enemy not fat. Good luck.
Well thanks for that this was more informal than the information I was given from either my dietician or my current doctor :D
 
It's not just about reducing your intake of sugary foods Grahammilne1994. Carbohydrsates convert to glucose in the body. Try to reduce your intake of the bad carbs, potatoes, white bread, rice and pasta and watch how much veg and fruit you eat as they are usually moderate/high in carbs. Many of us on this site eat very low levels of carbs and get our energy by eating fat. I know it flies in the face of medical advice to eat a lot of fat, but that advice is gradually changing. Many of us believe the evidence that carbs are the real enemy not fat. Good luck.
So when you say far do you mean like meats and stuff? Cause none of my medical specialists gave me a list of things I should be eating or even give recommendations
 
It’s not just about sugar. Carbs have the same effect as sugar. Can I suggest you take a good look at low carb high fat methods of eating (keto is just a version of this). It’s definitely worth knowing about this option. It helps many of us lose significant amounts of weight, if desired, keep our numbers down and for some even eliminate medications and achieve remission and reduce or improve complications. Try clicking these links for more detailed explanations that are well worth reading

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog/jokalsbeek.401801/ for info including low carb made simple

And https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/ to show it really works

and https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/ for food ideas

also https://www.dietdoctor.com/ for more food ideas and general info of carb content of foods. Lots of other websites for recipes out there too. Just use the term low carb or keto with whatever you fancy.

Also it’s very important to be able to check for yourself what’s happening so you can make the necessary adjustments day to day and meal by meal rather than wait 3,6 or even 12 months and then have no idea what had what effect. Getting a blood glucose meter is the only way to do this (no matter what contradictory advice you may have heard - it’s usually budget based rather than anything more scientific). Please ask if you want any guidance on this.


(not relevant to the op as he’s just on metformin but for others reading this)

IMPORTANT:
if you lower your carbs then any glucose lowering meds may need to be adjusted accordingly to make sure you aren’t taking more than your new diet requires. It can cause a hypo if you have more gliclazide or insulin etc (this is not relevant for metformin on its own) than your new carb intake requires. Keep a close eye on your numbers and ideally do this with your dr. Please don’t be put off by an ill informed out dated rubbishing of low carb diets or being told you should eat carbs to match meds, it should be the other way around.
 
So when you say far do you mean like meats and stuff? Cause none of my medical specialists gave me a list of things I should be eating or even give recommendations
Meat has very low or zero carbs. Fish is very good. Cheese, cream, salads nuts and seeds are excellent. I'm afraid that the NHS still advise T2 diabetics to eat a balanced diet with around 60% of the diet comprised of good carbs like wholemeal bread, brown rice and pasts. If you haven't got one already buy a BG test machine. The Codefree one costs around £25 on Ebay and the test strips are 18 each.Test yourself before a meal and again an hour and then two hours after your first bite. Try different foods and test after each. You will soon find what is good and bad for you and you can then reduce the number of tests you do. The NHS will tell you that eating very low levels of carbs is bad for your health. Many on this site, myself included, think this is nonsense. I eat practically no carbs and quite a lot of fat (a mix of fish plant based fats such as avocados, olive oil and oily fish and saturated fat from meat and dairy). My health is better than it has been in years and I now have normal range BG levels. We are all different and that is why testing is so important. Don't forget to exercise. When your muscles work they burn glucose without the need for insulin. Regular exercise is essential.
 
Meat has very low or zero carbs. Fish is very good. Cheese, cream, salads nuts and seeds are excellent. I'm afraid that the NHS still advise T2 diabetics to eat a balanced diet with around 60% of the diet comprised of good carbs like wholemeal bread, brown rice and pasts. If you haven't got one already buy a BG test machine. The Codefree one costs around £25 on Ebay and the test strips are 18 each.Test yourself before a meal and again an hour and then two hours after your first bite. Try different foods and test after each. You will soon find what is good and bad for you and you can then reduce the number of tests you do. The NHS will tell you that eating very low levels of carbs is bad for your health. Many on this site, myself included, think this is nonsense. I eat practically no carbs and quite a lot of fat (a mix of fish plant based fats such as avocados, olive oil and oily fish and saturated fat from meat and dairy). My health is better than it has been in years and I now have normal range BG levels. We are all different and that is why testing is so important. Don't forget to exercise. When your muscles work they burn glucose without the need for insulin. Regular exercise is essential.
That's grand thank you so much for the insight and what to do glad I found this app and I have a BG testing machine so I'll give what you've said a try :D
 
That's grand thank you so much for the insight and what to do glad I found this app and I have a BG testing machine so I'll give what you've said a try :D
Fantastic, but please don't forget it's a marathon, not a sprint. We all have good and bad days. Something as simple as a bit of stress or a head cold can put BG up, so try not to give up if you have a couple of bad days. The HBA1c measures average Bg over a 2-3 month period, so the odd bad day doesn't mean you have fallen off the wagon. There are some fabulous people on this site with some great ideas, so keep coming back.
 
Fantastic, but please don't forget it's a marathon, not a sprint. We all have good and bad days. Something as simple as a bit of stress or a head cold can put BG up, so try not to give up if you have a couple of bad days. The HBA1c measures average Bg over a 2-3 month period, so the odd bad day doesn't mean you have fallen off the wagon. There are some fabulous people on this site with some great ideas, so keep coming back.
I shall and once again thanks for some amazing insight
 
Hi there any chance you can guide me to that as I use the mobile app and can't seem to find that thanks

I use the website by browser, not the app. I don't know if you see the same things. However, on the website if you go to your profile settings (top right of the navigation bar you will see your user name. Hover over that and a drop down appears) Chose "personal details" and then complete all the tick boxes on there. There is a drop down box for type of diabetes, and places to enter treatment type and medications. If that doesn't work for you, someone else who uses the app will have to help.
 
I was taking 1 1MG Metformin morning and night but that's changed as my doctor has told me to double the dosage so it's now 2 in morning and 2 at teatime

Well as mentioned already Metformin will not make a huge difference, and it is unlikely that any medication can be an effective long term answer to T2D, especially if your aim is to try and reverse the effects.

A change of diet and lifestyle is the only really effective way, either alongside some medication or on it's own.

Good luck, but you have certainly come to the right place to get support.
 
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