Did walking do this?

[flonvic]

Thoughts please.pre tea reading 6.0. 2 hours after half portion of special chow mein and half portion of bean sprouts up to 9.3! 30 minutes on treadmill (2.4km @5km/hr,down to 4.9! Question is,have i used the extra sugar by walking?

 

[Oldvatr]

What medications are you taking? certainly 2.4 km would make some inroad to the drop in bgl, but it is actually not very efficient and probably not entirely responsible for the 4.4 drop. Meter error may explain the difference. But not to be sniffed at. a good drop. I find a glass of whisky does the same for me, but that is my problem.

 

[flonvic]

What medications are you taking? certainly 2.4 km would make some inroad to the drop in bgl, but it is actually not very efficient and probably not entirely responsible for the 4.4 drop. Meter error may explain the difference. But not to be sniffed at. a good drop. I find a glass of whisky does the same for me, but that is my problem.

Teetotal so cant try that.4x metformin a day and 1 linagliptin.

 

[Oldvatr]

Teetotal so cant try that.4x metformin a day and 1 linagliptin.

The Metformiun will not be contributing much to that drop, but the Linagliptin+ exercise might do it. Perfecly feasible. 4.9 is not in hypo territory (starts at 3.9) but keep an eye on it. Food like chow mein is not really suitable for a T2D and most of us here would spike on it. Doesn't matter how special it was, its still a problem meal. you may find you are sensitive to monosodium glutamate which is a prime ingredient of the gravy.

 

[flonvic]

The Metformiun will not be contributing much to that drop, but the Linagliptin+ exercise might do it. Perfecly feasible. 4.9 is not in hypo territory (starts at 3.9) but keep an eye on it. Food like chow mein is not really suitable for a T2D and most of us here would spike on it. Doesn't matter how special it was, its still a problem meal. you may find you are sensitive to monosodium glutamate which is a prime ingredient of the gravy.

Thanks for your input.much appreciated.Enjoy your nightcap.

 

[Oldvatr]

Thanks for your input.much appreciated.Enjoy your nightcap.

Hic! I am fighting a spike of 12 due to a pecan slice and cheeselets snack just before my meal. It was 9.7 and going south at the 2hr point and before I had my nightcap, due to retest in 30 mins. I anticipate a soft landing at around 8 mmol/l which is 1 mmol/lhigher than my normal fasting state.

 

[Oldvatr]

Just a quick update on my nightcap. My 4hr PP reading was 5.7 Yay!!!! Way to Go! In my case my 40mg Gliclazide and finger of whisky restored normality. Mind you the whisky would have made me immune if the landing had turned out to be a hard landing or belly flop _ I wouldn't care less.! I am not extolling drinking alcohol as a sensible adjunct to treatment for T2D but on occasions I know I can use it as a bolus. Pecan slice is my Nemesis. (well, one of them)

 

[flonvic]

Just a quick update on my nightcap. My 4hr PP reading was 5.7 Yay!!!! Way to Go! In my case my 40mg Gliclazide and finger of whisky restored normality. Mind you the whisky would have made me immune if the landing had turned out to be a hard landing or belly flop _ I wouldn't care less.! I am not extolling drinking alcohol as a sensible adjunct to treatment for T2D but on occasions I know I can use it as a bolus. Pecan slice is my Nemesis. (well, one of them)

 

[flonvic]

Nothing else to eat last night but fbg 7.5 this morning I will never understand this!

 

[Oldvatr]

Nothing else to eat last night but fbg 7.5 this morning I will never understand this!

That may be liver dump. When your body detects a gap in feeding and sugars are dropping, then it signals to the liver to take glocose out of storage. There is an inbuilt "thermostat" that is set to keep a bgl level based on recent history, and this looks like it needs resetting to a lower level. Some do it by calorie restriced diet, some by carb reduction, and some by intense workouts, and some by fasting. and it takes a while of sustained diet to do the reset. A good example is the Newcastle diet used just to reset the system, like a diabetic Boot Camp. The CTRL ALT Delete of our body clock

 

[flonvic]

That may be liver dump. When your body detects a gap in feeding and sugars are dropping, then it signals to the liver to take glocose out of storage. There is an inbuilt "thermostat" that is set to keep a bgl level based on recent history, and this looks like it needs resetting to a lower level. Some do it by calorie restriced diet, some by carb reduction, and some by intense workouts, and some by fasting. and it takes a while of sustained diet to do the reset. A good example is the Newcastle diet used just to reset the system, like a diabetic Boot Camp. The CTRL ALT Delete of our body clock

Thanks for the advice.

 

[AndBreathe]

Thoughts please.pre tea reading 6.0. 2 hours after half portion of special chow mein and half portion of bean sprouts up to 9.3! 30 minutes on treadmill (2.4km @5km/hr,down to 4.9! Question is,have i used the extra sugar by walking?

With Chinese food it is usually useful to text for longer than 2 hours, at least in the first instance. That most dishes contain or are cooked in oil, can slow spikes, and in some folks they have multiple spikes, hence the longer testing.

This is one instance or example when the Libre is extremely inciteful. No chance of missing excursions high or low.

 

[Oldvatr]

I have been prompted to revist my comment prvious regarding MSG and it seems I may have been slightly misleading.
firstly, chinese cuisine dishes such as chow mein will probably contain MSG as umame flavour enhancer. MSG is generally considered safe as an additive (E621)

I cannot find any evidence that it raises glucose levels in blood. However ther is some evidence that it causes increased insulin secretion. this is without a corresponding drop in glucose levels, so is generally interpreted as incresing Insulin Resistance. It is not clear from the studies I read whether this is a temporary effect, or a longer term effect. The studies I read used healthy volunteers and did not look at effect on diabetic population.

There is a chinese study that found no change in insulin or glucose, but they used OGTT to measure glucose response and Area under Curve as an estimate for the insulin rather than measuring it in the blood. So not a valid study IMO.

If the insulin resistance is only temporary then it does not correspond to the OP question.

The other thing I found was that approx 1% of the general populace is affected by a reaction to MSG, but the reported effects are more aligned to an allergy than anything related to diabetes. (headaches, breathlessness, joint pain, swellings etc).

 

[flonvic]

Thankyou for going to the trouble to find this.

 

[HSSS]

I have been prompted to revist my comment prvious regarding MSG and it seems I may have been slightly misleading.
firstly, chinese cuisine dishes such as chow mein will probably contain MSG as umame flavour enhancer. MSG is generally considered safe as an additive (E621)

I cannot find any evidence that it raises glucose levels in blood. However ther is some evidence that it causes increased insulin secretion. this is without a corresponding drop in glucose levels, so is generally interpreted as incresing Insulin Resistance. It is not clear from the studies I read whether this is a temporary effect, or a longer term effect. The studies I read used healthy volunteers and did not look at effect on diabetic population.

There is a chinese study that found no change in insulin or glucose, but they used OGTT to measure glucose response and Area under Curve as an estimate for the insulin rather than measuring it in the blood. So not a valid study IMO.

If the insulin resistance is only temporary then it does not correspond to the OP question.

The other thing I found was that approx 1% of the general populace is affected by a reaction to MSG, but the reported effects are more aligned to an allergy than anything related to diabetes. (headaches, breathlessness, joint pain, swellings etc).

Surely with chow mien the biggest issue is the carbs in the noodles? Even more than any potential issues with msg