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Am I doing this right?

Lin 26

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Hi all.

I managed to post yesterday. Then at the advise of lovely people who replied I posted more information ie meals but had no responses. Have I posted this wrong by adding onto my previous post please???

I have ordered a blood meter from amazon at advise on here.
Also downloaded the carbs and cals app. to use to help me.

Feeling very tired and achey today and vision is all blurry again. Bit fed up.

Lin
 
Hi lin,
you prob havent had advice yet as people may be out, sorry you feel bad today but good u have ordered a meter
 
Hi Lin and welcome to the forum:)

Yes - you are doing everything right so here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to answer you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi all.

I managed to post yesterday. Then at the advise of lovely people who replied I posted more information ie meals but had no responses. Have I posted this wrong by adding onto my previous post please???

I have ordered a blood meter from amazon at advise on here.
Also downloaded the carbs and cals app. to use to help me.

Probably best to use the app as a guide.
But if certain foods raise your BS more than you are happy with then either cut back or eliminate them from your diet.

The app will only be as good as the data put into it. It's also not uncommon for people to find that their personal GI differs from any published GI.
 
Hello Lin and welcome to the forum. Posts sometimes get lost and if you have had no answers but really need one, just post on the same thread to "bump" it up to the top.

If you read all of Daisy's post above, the one explaining all about everything you will find a lot of guidance in that. When your meter arrives you will definitely be able to start controlling your condition properly. A meter will tell you everything you need to know about what spikes your blood glucose and what doesn't. In the meantime, it might be wise to cut back on bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and most fruit. I can eat berries. Read all the labels on your food and find out the carb content. Read all you can on this forum about the various ways to control diabetes, there is a truckload of info to absorb and from that you can decide which path you will take.

Good Luck Lin :)
 
Hi Lin, I am newly diagnosed Type 2 (Feb this year), and have found a massive amount of information on this site. I felt very depressed and isolated when I was first diagnosed, as I didn't know anyone with Diabetes who I could talk to, but I do feel more in control now with the help of all the people on this Forum. They are very friendly and helpful. have a good look round and you will be amazed at how much you will learn in a short space of time. Joining this Forum was the best thing I ever did so don't dispair, keep your chin up it does get better when you have support.

Good luck Lin and I hope you feel better soon.

Marilyn
 
Hi Lin, I am newly diagnosed Type 2 (Feb this year), and have found a massive amount of information on this site. I felt very depressed and isolated when I was first diagnosed, as I didn't know anyone with Diabetes who I could talk to, but I do feel more in control now with the help of all the people on this Forum. They are very friendly and helpful. have a good look round and you will be amazed at how much you will learn in a short space of time. Joining this Forum was the best thing I ever did so don't dispair, keep your chin up it does get better when you have support.

Good luck Lin and I hope you feel better soon.

Marilyn
Thank you Marylin I hope you are feeling better now. Did you get a meter to test your bloods, has it helped you to get to grips. I tried eating very few carbs yesterday, but I still counted it around 150 which I think is too much, I was hungry after lunch, I had salad and herrings in tomato sauce,and melon. Think my tummy is used to a more solid substance ie bread lol! Are you following low carb, it seems to everything opposite to what the nurse told me and the diabetic sheet she gave me which said to base your foods around carbohydrates. Think that's why I'm confused and miserable about food. I'm struggling to eat. Today I don't even fancy anything at all!!l. Lin x
 
Thank you Marylin I hope you are feeling better now. Did you get a meter to test your bloods, has it helped you to get to grips. I tried eating very few carbs yesterday, but I still counted it around 150 which I think is too much, I was hungry after lunch, I had salad and herrings in tomato sauce,and melon. Think my tummy is used to a more solid substance ie bread lol! Are you following low carb, it seems to everything opposite to what the nurse told me and the diabetic sheet she gave me which said to base your foods around carbohydrates. Think that's why I'm confused and miserable about food. I'm struggling to eat. Today I don't even fancy anything at all!!l. Lin x
If you don't fancy food today - that is the LC working!! A good thing - no cravings! Don't worry it all gets better.
 
Hi Lin, I am feeling better than I have for ages thanks. I did get a meter and started testing regularly before and 2 hours after meals despite my nurse saying I should only test once a week (this is utter ****).

I am following a low carb high fat diet as I find that most carbohydrates spike my bg. I used to eat loads of pasta, pizza, chocolate, cakes and biscuits I have a real sweet tooth, so I found it very difficult to know what to eat in the beginning, but I searched this site and the internet in general for low carb recipes and found loads. (I also bought a carb counter and a low carb cook book from Amazon).

For breakfast I have bacon and eggs, or a mushroom omelette, or scrambled egg with smoked salmon. For lunch I have either a ham, cheese, beef, chicken or avocado salad followed by a natural yoghurt and for evening meal I have any kind of meat or fish with lots of vegetables, preferably leafy veg, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, not carrots as when they are cooked their carbohydrate value rises (raw is fine). I have also had shepherd pie topped with swede instead of potatoes and you can also make swede or cerliac chips (haven't tried these yet but am going to) Fruit is also quite high in carbs except for berries (especially blueberries) I sometimes have these with the yoghurt or double cream (Yum). I have to say that proteins seems to fill me up for longer and haven't really felt that hungry. I have also lost weight from 9st 12 to 8st 10 in eight weeks without even trying.

The NHS haven't caught on yet that Carbohydates raise blood sugar levels even the wholemeal variety, and tend to give everyone advice about eating lots of starchy foods, but as long as you do not have any other condition that would prevent you from a low carb high fat diet try it and see, but have a look round as some members follow other diets which might suit you better as we are all different, but all I would say is check your levels regularly all the other members on here say "eat to your meter" and it is very good advice.

Hope I have managed to excite your taste buds lol! It does get better, so keep your chin up!

Marilyn x
 
Thanks sooo much Marilyn. This has helped me enormously. See what you mean, will just have to have a few carbs occasionally . I do love my past, rice, jackets. Think this is what I'm so upset about. And don't have a huge budget .luckily I do like all foods except shellfish and offal .

Am feeling very shakey today. Trouble is with the now 3 conditions is working out which one is causing which symptom.lol!
Thanks again. Keep well xxx
 
Hi Lin, Glad I was able to help a bit, I don't know how old you are or whether your are working or not. I am 61 and retired, so I am on and off this site pretty much most days in between taking the dog out and doing chores at home, so if you need anyone to chat to I am happy to help if I can.

Marilyn xxx
 
Thanks sooo much Marilyn. This has helped me enormously. See what you mean, will just have to have a few carbs occasionally . I do love my past, rice, jackets. Think this is what I'm so upset about. And don't have a huge budget .luckily I do like all foods except shellfish and offal .

Am feeling very shakey today. Trouble is with the now 3 conditions is working out which one is causing which symptom.lol!
Thanks again. Keep well xxx
I know what you mean Lin. I got my heart trouble diagnosis at the same time and it has overtaken the importance of my diabetes I'm afraid. When I read posts about how fit and active diabetes has made some people, I sooooooooo wish that could be me, but at the mo, I'm afraid I could possibly keel over with a cardiac arrest if I went for a walk even. The dizziness and tight chest, is this heart problems or Blood Sugar low/high? I'm afraid I'm not taking my diabetes too seriously at the mo, and I know I will have to soon 'cos I can't think of things I want to eat, or cook apart from a couple of things people have kindly suggested to me. x
 
Hi Lin, Glad I was able to help a bit, I don't know how old you are or whether your are working or not. I am 61 and retired, so I am on and off this site pretty much most days in between taking the dog out and doing chores at home, so if you need anyone to chat to I am happy to help if I can.

Marilyn xxx
Thanks so much, that is so nice of you. X
I'm 53 and work 24 hours. I stand all day except lunch hour so I get very tired with my conditions.
I work with a lovely bunch of people.
Days when I feel rotten I want to leave but days when I cope I love it. And would miss the comraderie.
I've been off 3 weeks. Was hoping to go back this week but as eyes still blurry, tiredness, wee pines not sure if it's a good idea. Hubby thinks I should get another certificate as have been so poorly, haven't felt well since November time. As I'm wooly headed I can't seem to make a decision. Doh!! My job is stressful at times and I have to focus, make snap decisions and deal with some unpleasant public at times I need to have my full wits about me.
 
I know what you mean Lin. I got my heart trouble diagnosis at the same time and it has overtaken the importance of my diabetes I'm afraid. When I read posts about how fit and active diabetes has made some people, I sooooooooo wish that could be me, but at the mo, I'm afraid I could possibly keel over with a cardiac arrest if I went for a walk even. The dizziness and tight chest, is this heart problems or Blood Sugar low/high? I'm afraid I'm not taking my diabetes too seriously at the mo, and I know I will have to soon 'cos I can't think of things I want to eat, or cook apart from a couple of things people have kindly suggested to me. x
Linda. I know what you mean about what is what, then you. Think you're becoming a hypochondriac lol!
You take good care of yourself in all ways. Here if you ever need a friend or to let off steam xx
 
Lin,
You do not have to go low carb if that does not suit you. I for one do "reduced" carb and have between 100 and 150g per day. I try to eat those with a low GI load but don't always. I have still managed to lose weight. What you need to do is find the answer that suits you whether it is LCHF, the NHS HC Low GI or a middle of the road solution. Whichever you do we can all provide you with help and reassurance.

Remember one size doesn't fit all because life isn't make of Lycra
 
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