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Off Insulin after 10 years - simple and easy

forge

forge

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Location
Bris Vegas (Brisbane) Australia
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Getting old and everything that goes with it. All the repeats on TV. The drongos who ring me up to sell me things. Religious havens for pedophiles and war-mongers.
I am off insulin after 10 years it was simple and easy.

New Specialist put me on NO MAJOR CARBS DIET and I was off insulin in a week. I was on 130 units insulin per day and I had been on insulin for 10 years.I am now on 4 diabex tablets and I have lost 10 KG as a bonus.

The diet requires no tests or measurements or serving sizes. You cannot get easier than that.

The diet is simply no major carbs and make up the difference without extra fats or meats. (you can make your own mind up about too many eggs and too much cheese).

  1. Potatoes (starchy) and sweet potato (starchy) are off the menu - so I make up the difference with pumpkin and zucchini
  2. All bakery products and everything grain related even spaghetti and rice are off the menu - I make my own using nut fllours
  3. Sugars of any type are off the menu - there are plenty of sweeteners
  4. Limited fruit - fruit is full of sugar. Definitely no grapes or dried fruit.
I have been on it for 4 months and I will be on it forever unless I want to go back to jabbing 4 times per day.

Please ask if you want to know more.
 
That great, it sounds like the same type of food that keeps me off insulin. Mind you I was only diagnosed in early June and only only insulin and tablets for one month.
No grain whatsoever in my diet, no wheat or starchy foods, potatoes or sweet potatoes etc.
If I dare to have a mushy pea pie snack attack my levels go up!
So I opt to keep it out.


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Hi, it is a very good diet with a few names
Have a read of dietdoctor lchf that a lot do here, I think it's the same. No grain, grain product or starchy veg
 
Sounds the same, I followed a book by Dr Cabot on how to reverse Type 2 Diabetes naturally, I suffered with the no pasta for a bit, but now I am used to it; better than insulin or drugs.


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Had success by making flatbreads with coconut flour or almond and flax meal, lots of practice to get it right without being too dry; hate dry food!


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BJR said:
That great, it sounds like the same type of food that keeps me off insulin. Mind you I was only diagnosed in early June and only only insulin and tablets for one month.
No grain whatsoever in my diet, no wheat or starchy foods, potatoes or sweet potatoes etc.
If I dare to have a mushy pea pie snack attack my levels go up!
So I opt to keep it out.

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Isn't it great - jabs are a nuisance with lows and driving hazard - the peas are fine it must just be the pastry.
 
jack412 said:
Hi, it is a very good diet with a few names
Have a read of dietdoctor lchf that a lot do here, I think it's the same. No grain, grain product or starchy veg
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I found similar diets but not the same this is easy with no daily carb load counts or anything, you just have to find your carb induced Hi BS trigger level and stay below it by not eating carbs.
 
That's true, only for those rare times when one just had to have a meat pie fresh from the bakery on a cold rainy day! Thank goodness it is rare.


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We'll done @forge I've done pretty much the same, carbs are the devils spawn :)

I find that I can now tolerate some carbs for example, there is a brand of white bread in the uk that barely affects my BG, where most other bread does....
 
BJR said:
That's true, only for those rare times when one just had to have a meat pie fresh from the bakery on a cold rainy day! Thank goodness it is rare.


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I had a pie and peas from our expensive award winning pie shop in a village 40 minutes outside Brisbane, I took the top off and left most of the rest of the pastry and when I got home I tested fine
 
semiphonic said:
We'll done @forge I've done pretty much the same, carbs are the devils spawn :)

I find that I can now tolerate some carbs for example, there is a brand of white bread in the uk that barely affects my BG, where most other bread does....
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We all have a carb trigger level (quantity) if you stay under it you will be fine but go a bit too much carb (above your trigger level) and you will go quite high.That is the advice I got from my Specialist.
 
That's a progressive doctor and I hope he shares his opinion with other doctors, that carbs and diabetic need reducing from what's been taught for the last 40 years
 
jack412 said:
That's a progressive doctor and I hope he shares his opinion with other doctors, that carbs and diabetic need reducing from what's been taught for the last 40 years
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The Wesley Hospital in Brisbane has been actively researching and they run one on one programs for pre-diabetic and they have some good advice free on their web pages. I go to a specialist in the hospital suites.

There has been no mention of Hi Fats other than just each extra veg and when I get my weight lower he wants me to increase carbs. Methinks the docs are not keen on unbalanced diets over long periods, who knows what probs they might cause. I am 71 and my heart wiring is **** and now I have a pacemaker.

I can't believe the Paleo idea (for example) we live and extra 50 years and seasonal foods are a thing of the past.

Paleo might be good or bad but the advertised concept is ****. LCHF is a lot suss if you ask me. LCHF has no long term evidence just a few short term inferential tests with too small sample numbers.
 
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You can't eat low carb and low fat. It's a see saw balance
20%protein and 40% each of carb and fat is equal, you adjust up and down from there
20/30/50 or 20/50/30 for example

I go by my lipids, my bg and my weight loss
So far so good, my lipids are better on high fat than high carb. With normal protein. At this point I'm not changing, it will take a change in lipids when I reach my goal weight for me to reevaluate my diet and I will add carbs if needed for stable weight
But there is also a balance with meds in the mix in my case
 
jack412 said:
I tried looking up links at the hospital with no luck. Can you put some up
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http://wesleylifeshape.com.au/

Work your way through from here.

Wesley is a world leader in Prostate too, they work with the Dutch, the idea is to find a hot spot by scanning instead of taking a random biopsy sample. Our Men's Shed had a project leader give us a talk, he was very good indeed.

So I have a lot of respect for the Wesley approach.
 
Well done on your success in losing weight and coming off insulin. It's great that what you are doing is working for you. Looking at the site you are obviously following a plan that is individually tailored , taking into account your lifestyle. I really think that is important as if someone is given a diet plan that doesn't reflect this they are less likely to keep to it.
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Jack asks if it is like the low carb high fat diet as suggested by 'dietdoc' .
Looking at the website I would suggest not. I think though the 'major' bit is important in your description. It wasn't a no carb diet!
I had a look at the site and the advice on the site eating for people with diabetes is very similar to the advice given for both T2s and T1s here in France (just here they wouldn't count potatoes or corn as a veg; they would be counted as starch and together with the bread and cereals and pulses )
They stress lower GI and high fibre carbs, eating regular meals with consistent carb intake'
http://wesleylifeshape.com.au/diabetes-management-tips/diabetes-diet/healthy-eating-diabetes/
http://wesleylifeshape.com.au/weight-loss-tips/carbohydrates-q/
http://wesleylifeshape.com.au/weight-loss-tips/healthy-heart/
 
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phoenix said:
Well done on your success in losing weight and coming off insulin. It's great that what you are doing is working for you. Looking at the site you are obviously following a plan that is individually tailored , taking into account your lifestyle. I really think that is important as if you are given a diet plan that doesn't reflect this you are unlikely to keep to it. It is also so important to explain the plan and make it practical,.

Jack asks if it is like the low carb high fat diet. Looking at the website I would suggest not. I think though the 'major' bit is important in your description. It wasn't a no carb diet!
I had a look at the site and the advice on the site eating for people with diabetes is very similar to the advice given here in France (just here they wouldn't count potatoes or corn as a veg; they would be counted as starch and together with the bread and cereals and pulses )
They stress lower GI and high fibre carbs, eating regular meals with consistent carb intake'
http://wesleylifeshape.com.au/diabetes-management-tips/diabetes-diet/healthy-eating-diabetes/
http://wesleylifeshape.com.au/weight-loss-tips/carbohydrates-q/
http://wesleylifeshape.com.au/weight-loss-tips/healthy-heart/
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I went in the side door to the Wesley because I had a referral to a specialist with a suite at the Wesley. I was changing specialists and he started with a double length consultation and he asked a lot of questions and did all his tests and examined my lab results history then he told me he wanted a diet change with a view to taking me off insulin. He knew I adjusted my own insulin dosage and within a week I was off insulin. He did not refer me to a dietitian but simply told me no potatoes no grain products and no sugars of any kind, limited fruit definitely no grapes and no dried fruit. Take the slack up with other veg. See my GP about low potassium and come back in 3 months.

I saw my GP and added a banana per day for potassium and went back in 3 months with my blood test results on line.

He read out each number and explained the relevance, Essentially everything that was high came down and everything that was low went up and every result was in the good range for a diabetic. There were no changes necessary and he said if all goes well then I will be able to go back to my GP. I made an appointment in 4 months. I looked up Wesley on the net and I was impressed that they offered a one on one program.but I was also impressed that the specialist was happy with my exercise level and his diet advice worked and I was able get off insulin.

Now you know as much as I do.
 
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