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Help with bg levels

teresat

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Location
Eastbourne
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi my husband has recently been diagnosed with type 2 I bought him an ACCU-CHEK Aviva and we started to do his checks but the reading is coming back anything from 12.1-22.9 and on the test strip container the ranges are 14.1-19.1 this cant be right surely as I was under the impression that it should be 8 so what are we doing wrong he has only been on Metformin for a week
 
Hi Teresat
What was his blood results on diagnosis, where they high as well? You are getting high number because his Blood Glucose Levels are high. What is he eating. This is likely to have a major bearing on his levels I am afraid.

@daisy1 will be along shortly to provide some comprehensive information to help. Please read this information and ask questions.

Let us know what he is eating and when you are testing in relation to meal times. I am sure we can help you and your husband manage his condition.
 
Hi Teresat
What was his blood results on diagnosis, where they high as well? You are getting high number because his Blood Glucose Levels are high. What is he eating. This is likely to have a major bearing on his levels I am afraid.

@daisy1 will be along shortly to provide some comprehensive information to help. Please read this information and ask questions.

Let us know what he is eating and when you are testing in relation to meal times. I am sure we can help you and your husband manage his condition.
 
Hi Andrew

He was not given these at all. It was a bit of bad luck really as we were due to go to malta on holiday therefore were a bit distracted but we did try. When we got home I tried to buy fresh cooked meat not any processed food but he has new potatoes, fresh veg, liver, lean grilled bacon only once though, white bread but medium sliced 1g sugar per slice, lighter then light clover, no sugar only sweetner, semi skimmed milk cant remember now the rest of the food. But I do look for the traffic light packaging with as many green colours as possible and the sugar content of less then 4g. Please advise me what im doing wrong. Many thanks in advance
 
Hi teresat.

Bad news I'm afraid. It isn't just 'sugar' that you need to watch for.

When we eat carbohydrate (bread, rice, pasta, potato, and many other foods including most fruit), our body breaks them down into glucose in our digestive tract.

And it is the glucose that your test meter is measuring.

So that slice of white bread (brown or white makes very little difference), that looks like it is 1g sugar, actually breaks down to much more and sends the blood glucose higher than you are expecting. It probably contains 15 g of carbs.

What you need to be looking for is the carbohydrate quantity, in grams, not the sugar content.

But the good news is that there are a LOT of foods that don't send the blood glucose up high. :)
These include meat, fish, eggs, butter, fat, oil, cheese, cream, vegetables (except potato and starchy root veg), nuts, tofu, quorn... It is a long list.

Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news.
 
Hi teresat and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information which we give to new members, which @Andrew Colvin mentioned in his post, and I hope you will find it useful and answers some of your questions. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi my husband has recently been diagnosed with type 2 I bought him an ACCU-CHEK Aviva and we started to do his checks but the reading is coming back anything from 12.1-22.9 and on the test strip container the ranges are 14.1-19.1 this cant be right surely as I was under the impression that it should be 8 so what are we doing wrong he has only been on Metformin for a week
the 14.1-19.1 on the container is for the test solutions to check your strips and meter [no need to bother, T2's look for trends and your meter now is close enough, there is no adjustment]

as has been said, it's the carbs, get your hubby to join the forum and have a read

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf it’s a long page and a video
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm because carbs don’t give up easy.

testing
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
food count
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/

Newcastle diet aims in 8+ weeks to mimic or better the rate of ~80% remission, for surgery T2
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/
http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2010/mar/weight-loss-surgery-and-type-2-diabetes.html

http://diabeticmediterraneandiet.com/low-carb-mediterranean-diet/
http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/carbohydrate-restriction-an-option-for-diabetes-management
 
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