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Do other people ever listen?

Tell him about my hubby's best friend. He died of diabetic complications at the age of 40. For 10 years prior to that he had to stop work and stop driving. His sight deteriorated. His skin was covered in sores through injecting so much insulin. He could barely walk his feet were so bad, and he was on dialysis until he got a transplant, but eventually, after many stays in hospital, his heart gave out. He left a widow and a young son.
 
The problem with many OHs is that they have a direct link from one ear to the other which bypasses the brain, and this is the way that diabetic type conversations tend to travel.

Sometimes a little information does actually leak through - after almost 12 months of being diabetic, I have an OH who has cottoned on that I won't be eating carrots or parsnips this Christmas. Having said this OHs can also be very supportive, and some members of our forum are lucky enough to have them.

Robbity
 
There are plenty of ignorant OHs out there. I've even stopped trying to enlighten others and suggest they educate themselves..."google it" is my reply to anyone vaguely interested. My perception is that others just think you're fine after an injection or for most T2s take tabs, lose weight and exercise which is scandalous but diabetics are stereotyped and will take a long time to change.
 
I feel your pain! I am really lucky in that my OH has taken it upon himself to do loads of research but that backfires too when he turns into the Diabetic Police! I just remind him that we are both at the learning stage and everything is fine.

My Dad, however is a different matter - he and his partner KNOW all about diabetes - her ex-husband (type2) and friends (Type 1). I get the impression from them that they don't think it's a big deal. Maybe when I have been dealing with this for several years I too will be fine but at the moment, it's hard work.

I try to remind myself that the only person that can sort this is me and sometimes that helps, sometimes it doesn't!

Hope you make some progress with your OH. Meanwhile - this forum is great. It helps knowing you aren't alone.
 
Robbity said:
The problem with many OHs is that they have a direct link from one ear to the other which bypasses the brain, and this is the way that diabetic type conversations tend to travel.

Sometimes a little information does actually leak through - after almost 12 months of being diabetic, I have an OH who has cottoned on that I won't be eating carrots or parsnips this Christmas. Having said this OHs can also be very supportive, and some members of our forum are lucky enough to have them.

Robbity
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I was probably being unfair to him since it has only been a short while but I was intensely irritated that night......that being said...he bought me a packet of crisps today, I just looked at him and said 'carbs'....with genuine horror.
 
Well at least it wasn't a bar of chocolate!, a few carbs at the right time can help lift irritability,and a few crisps is ok.(few being the operative word)
 
jack412 said:
being snappy the first couple of months is normal, you've had a hell of a shock
how many carbs are you a day? you may still have carb cravings? are you eating well with lots of fats/olive oils [no marge or grain oil]
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/carblevel.htm
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I must confess I only started this on Thursday and am still finding my feet. I have just had the worst day in terms of tiredness ever.

I have obviously cut all obvious carbs (potatos, rice, pasta, bread, root veg etc) and have been having all full fat everything - butter, coconut oil, olive oil, cream, cheese etc. I have been a little worried about the ratio of everything which I believe is 75 % fat, 20% protein, 5% carbs????......but at the moment I am not really measuring stuff to work it all out - do I need to? How extreme do people go?

I need a list of what carbs are in things I wouldn't think of, ie broccoli etc - I mean, do people count this to start with? or just go with the flow? How does everyone know/count the carbs? and the fat?

So I have to say - while it is easy - these little things get stuck in my brain. I don't even know if I need to be worrying about that too severely at an early stage but I have been reading so so many different ways of doing things and different journeys that I'm a little confused.

and grumpy :)

Kirst

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Hi Kirsty, did you check out the chart for working out your carb= body weight requirements , it helps to know what levels are appropriate for our weight, plus the 40/30/30 formulae for protein,carbs and fats is a good guide, you will find the charts in the welcome info for all newbies, and yes I have found that measuring and weighing food is boring ...but necessary to start with, you soon get to know portions and sizes etc, once you get a balance and feel for your requirements , you will feel calmer !
 
I found all the counting boring at first but soon becomes second nature. My worst symptoms were early after diagnosis but settled as long as I stuck to my regime. Any slips and I just went back to feeling very ill.
 
CaptainKirst said:
I must confess I only started this on Thursday and am still finding my feet. I have just had the worst day in terms of tiredness ever.

I have obviously cut all obvious carbs (potatos, rice, pasta, bread, root veg etc) and have been having all full fat everything - butter, coconut oil, olive oil, cream, cheese etc. I have been a little worried about the ratio of everything which I believe is 75 % fat, 20% protein, 5% carbs????......but at the moment I am not really measuring stuff to work it all out - do I need to? How extreme do people go?

I need a list of what carbs are in things I wouldn't think of, ie broccoli etc - I mean, do people count this to start with? or just go with the flow? How does everyone know/count the carbs? and the fat?

So I have to say - while it is easy - these little things get stuck in my brain. I don't even know if I need to be worrying about that too severely at an early stage but I have been reading so so many different ways of doing things and different journeys that I'm a little confused.

and grumpy :)

Kirst

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I meant 2 mths post diagnosis being snappy :)
stay away from spuds and corn, grain and grain product, sugaryt stuff and fruit eat lots of nonstarch veg and salad http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/whattoeat/a/whatveg.htm
don't worry about percentages, just stay away from high carbs ..you have lots of time to learn and there are no quizzes :)

eat anything else, normal meat fish and lots of real butter and olive oil
if you are tired or cold, eat more fats/oil
you also need some more salt the first week or two and you cut a lot from junk food

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf it’s a long page and a video

For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy.

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm

A dietician sitehttp://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/carbohydrate-restriction-an-option-for-diabetes-management


blood testing

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm
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Clivethedrive said:
Hi Kirsty, did you check out the chart for working out your carb= body weight requirements , it helps to know what levels are appropriate for our weight, plus the 40/30/30 formulae for protein,carbs and fats is a good guide, you will find the charts in the welcome info for all newbies, and yes I have found that measuring and weighing food is boring ...but necessary to start with, you soon get to know portions and sizes etc, once you get a balance and feel for your requirements , you will feel calmer !
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40% protein doesn't sounds right, most are 15-25%, have you got the link for it. it may need fixing
 
jack412 said:
I meant 2 mths post diagnosis being snappy :)
stay away from spuds and corn, grain and grain product, sugaryt stuff and fruit eat lots of nonstarch veg and salad http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/whattoeat/a/whatveg.htm
don't worry about percentages, just stay away from high carbs ..you have lots of time to learn and there are no quizzes :)

eat anything else, normal meat fish and lots of real butter and olive oil
if you are tired or cold, eat more fats/oil
you also need some more salt the first week or two and you cut a lot from junk food
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Haha...yeah I'm a bit of a worrier. Think I'm just worried about getting it wrong and not getting my head properly into it. I worry about worrying. Need to read a lot more I think, the main thing I have done is cutting the obvious carbs, the rest is just going to take time. Thanks for the link/s. I was very curious to know about other peoples counting methods and how they work out what they are doing. :)

Kirst
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if you aren't eating grain/product and starchy veg and sugary stuff and fruit and juice.... that's 95% of it. you don't need to worry about the other 5%
have a line of 85% chocolate. eat when you are hungry till you are satisfied, you will be fine by the end of the week and your BG will be down in the afternoon too

a lot use the apps and
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/
 
CaptainKirst said:
I must confess I only started this on Thursday and am still finding my feet. I have just had the worst day in terms of tiredness ever.

I have obviously cut all obvious carbs (potatos, rice, pasta, bread, root veg etc) and have been having all full fat everything - butter, coconut oil, olive oil, cream, cheese etc. I have been a little worried about the ratio of everything which I believe is 75 % fat, 20% protein, 5% carbs????......but at the moment I am not really measuring stuff to work it all out - do I need to? How extreme do people go?

I need a list of what carbs are in things I wouldn't think of, ie broccoli etc - I mean, do people count this to start with? or just go with the flow? How does everyone know/count the carbs? and the fat?

So I have to say - while it is easy - these little things get stuck in my brain. I don't even know if I need to be worrying about that too severely at an early stage but I have been reading so so many different ways of doing things and different journeys that I'm a little confused.

and grumpy :)

Kirst

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I once slept 33 hours with the odd 5 min rise for a pee or gulping litres of water. I was so hyperglycemic and registered a 30.5 mmol/l and some "HI"s too. Probably belonged in A&E but was so out of it then. This was a learning curve for me then to scrupulously monitor, eat well and hydrate. Hasn't happened for yonks but kirst I do empathize with the crabbitness as anything is a monumental struggle when your possibly hyperglycemic. Keep well.
EDDIE
 
Kezzer4321 said:
Oh that is disgusting wish I hadn't clicked on the link now
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Aaah, but if you read the details.. 3 of the 10 got it from teeth bite marks!! Only 1 I think was a diabetic????
 
CaptainKirst said:
I must confess I only started this on Thursday and am still finding my feet. I have just had the worst day in terms of tiredness ever.

I have obviously cut all obvious carbs (potatos, rice, pasta, bread, root veg etc) and have been having all full fat everything - butter, coconut oil, olive oil, cream, cheese etc. I have been a little worried about the ratio of everything which I believe is 75 % fat, 20% protein, 5% carbs????......but at the moment I am not really measuring stuff to work it all out - do I need to? How extreme do people go?

I need a list of what carbs are in things I wouldn't think of, ie broccoli etc - I mean, do people count this to start with? or just go with the flow? How does everyone know/count the carbs? and the fat?

So I have to say - while it is easy - these little things get stuck in my brain. I don't even know if I need to be worrying about that too severely at an early stage but I have been reading so so many different ways of doing things and different journeys that I'm a little confused.

and grumpy :)

Kirst

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Hi
I am new to this too and have only been doing lchf a few weeks. I have done the same as you and cut out the obvious carbs and just stuck to fresh foods. I haven't made it complicated as I wanted to get used to eating in a different way, and I intend to introduce more detail into my diet over time. I must say, my bg was normal within two weeks of starting lchf and I have lost weight. I use the app myfitnesspal which calculates your calories depending on your weight and activity levels, and also enables you to gauge you carb, protein etc intake.

I would suggest just keeping it simple to start with, you can always fine tune it as you go. I still struggle with getting my head round the amount of fat I need to consume, and still feel naughty having cream and full fat yoghurt!
 
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