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Type 2's: What was your fasting blood glucose in a morning?

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A nice solid 4.0 for me today.

Yesterday was part frustration and part pleasure. Firstly the please: Mr B has returned to Planet Breathe a day early as it wasn’t much fun golfing in the extreme (to us) cold, so he and his brother will reprise the fun days over the next couple of weeks, should a weather window open up. Whilst I enjoy my time on my own, the world is generally a better place when Mr B is around. I mean; who cooks dinner when he’s away?

Then the frustration. Oh boy, was this fun!

Over the years my/our financial affairs have become quite complex, one way or another, and I needed to call a stockbroker in Paris, to try to untangle a puzzle with some French stocks. One can easily trade foreign, and especially stocks on EU exchanges, via a UK broker, but I had to pick one of the few you can’t? (Yes, fairly typical I hear you shout!). So, I make the call and listen to some lovely muzac at premium rates, interspersed by a canned monsieur asking me to make what sounded like random automated menu choices. Anyway, eventually I managed to get through and achieved my objective, albeit the dialogue was a bit like an episode of “’Allo, ‘Allo”. (Now, I’m hoping your mental image here is more Vicky Michelle than Carmen Silvera, and in my own mind’s eye, I have Arthur Bostrom for my Parisian advisor.) Actually, I concluded I'm a natural in Franglais.

So, another bright, sunny Saturday is with us and it’s time to get out and do a bit of tidying up, whilst there’s some warmth in the sun.

Be good playmates, or Santa may have to reconsider your rewards for the year. :D
 
VinnyJames said:
I don't understand that BT - if you're bs levels are at non diabetic levels for 8-12 hours out of every 24 hours then it's hard to see why your hba1c is in the diabetic range.
Unless you have very high levels in daylight hours?
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It isn't in the diabetic range. My HbA1c is 43 as per my signature. My pre-meal levels are always in the 5's with some 4's. My post meal spikes are rarely above 1.5mmol/l with just an odd exception. So I agree, it is hard to understand my HbA1c. Clearly some undetected rises somewhere, but I'm happy and it does keep coming down every 3 months. :)
 
You don't see signatures when on an iphone - and I was confused by this:-

I don't know the answer to that question. My own fasting levels have never been high. They have averaged in the mid 5's since I started testing last April, yet my HbA1c still isn't in the non-diabetic range. I see people on here reporting higher fasting levels than mine yet they have lower HbA1c's.



I was doubly confused because I had always thought, quite rightly, that you have very good control. :-)
 
Hi @VinnyJames. The fasting levels we record are our b.s. levels at that moment in time. Our levels can go up and down during the night but we have no way of telling how much. Some folks on here test if they wake during the night and the figures can be quite different to bedtime and fasting ones. The action of the liver can increase b.s. levels if it feels we are dropping too low. I'm not on meds so can't say what influence that has during the night. Hope this helps. @pavlosn is better at explaining these things
 
@Sable_Jan

My general understanding is that bs levels drop during the night as we are not taking on board any energy (food).

I get the Liver dump thing aka Dawn phenomenon which happens when our bs gets too low.

Presumably this could happen at 2am, for example, depending on what happened in the preceding 12 hours?

Could readings go up and down in the night? I would have thought for that to happen you would have to have more than one liver dump throughout the night?

I don't know if that is possible or not possible tbh.- in type 2's at least.

If @pavlosn or anyone else can explain I would be grateful.
 
VinnyJames said:
@Sable_Jan

My general understanding is that bs levels drop during the night as we are not taking on board any energy (food).

I get the Liver dump thing aka Dawn phenomenon which happens when our bs gets too low.

Presumably this could happen at 2am, for example, depending on what happened in the preceding 12 hours?

Could readings go up and down in the night? I would have thought for that to happen you would have to have more than one liver dump throughout the night?

I don't know if that is possible or not possible tbh.- in type 2's at least.

If @pavlosn or anyone else can explain I would be grateful.
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Have you tried night time testing? I know @AndBreathe has, at I think half hourly intervals.
I only test if I need a bathroom visit and my bedtime level was unusual, so not very often. I'm too sleepy.
 
Pasha said:
Now you tell me that a few indiscretions are high carb!!! I shall just keep it to one indiscreetion in the future, or test with my meter.
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I believe that there are low carb 'indiscretions' that cancel out the high carb ones. Unfortunately mine were all the high carb variety.
 
VinnyJames said:
No I haven't.

If people do get variations are they within meter error ranges?

Again, I don't know the answer.
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The ones I have done have been very similar to my bedtime ones unless my bedtime one was in the 4's. My liver doesn't like 4's overnight. I usually go up by about half a mmol/l and stay there till morning. If I go to bed higher than usual, my night reading drops by also about half a mmol/l and stays there. If I go to bed on a normal level, low 5's, it stays that way.
 
kimbo1962 said:
Well, I am going to give it a go, it's assistant case worker at a homeless hostel, it's relief/bank post so while I am on my out-of-season "break" from the holiday centre it's ok, and, I should be able to do it alongside the holiday centre too. I actually also have another interview on Thursday for reception/administration that would be a temporary contract until March.......another option !
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You don't like to let the grass grow, Kimbo. Fair play.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Have you tried night time testing? I know @AndBreathe has, at I think half hourly intervals.
I only test if I need a bathroom visit and my bedtime level was unusual, so not very often. I'm too sleepy.
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@VinnyJames @ Blue - The 24 hour testing I have done has always been hourly, on the hour for 24 hours. Each time I have done it I have slept through one alarm through the night which is a bit irritating, but hasn't materially changed the outcomes, in my view.

I found my bloods are fairly stable overnight, but I can go lower at around 2-3am, My liver clearly then makes a contribution and off I go until morning. These movements aren't seismic (in fact modest) , so I'm not a great example.

As I've said before, I'd love a short while with a CGM to actually observe the whole picture, and I may have a couple of Freestyle Libre sensors when they're open to new customers again. I would be doing that purely to observe what goes on, and to actually see some of the peaks I must be having to support my HbA1c, but I don't expect, or particularly want, my HbA1c to reduce any more. I think I'm as low as I'll go, unless I curtain my enjoyment of food, and that's not going to be happening!
 
@bluetit1802
Have you tested beyond two hours post prandial at all in case there are hidden peaks beyond this point you are not capturing?
 
Did 3 readings all day and all were 6.1 or 6.2
Is my meter ok i dont know
Still down with bad throat and cold
Feel really disheartened seeing 6 as i was in 5s and 4s
 
Bluetit1802 said:
It isn't in the diabetic range. My HbA1c is 43 as per my signature. My pre-meal levels are always in the 5's with some 4's. My post meal spikes are rarely above 1.5mmol/l with just an odd exception. So I agree, it is hard to understand my HbA1c. Clearly some undetected rises somewhere, but I'm happy and it does keep coming down every 3 months. :)
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Faulty meter?
Anaemia?
Needing to test later than 2 hours?
http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/A1CTest/#12
 
brettsza said:
Did 3 readings all day and all were 6.1 or 6.2
Is my meter ok i dont know
Still down with bad throat and cold
Feel really disheartened seeing 6 as i was in 5s and 4s
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Nothing wrong with 6,1 and 6,2 especially if you are fighting a virus. In fact if any of those are post prandial then they are excellent. Just get yourself better and don't worry about one day's readings being slightly elevated from your normal levels. It's the big picture that counts.
 
pavlosn said:
@bluetit1802
Have you tested beyond two hours post prandial at all in case there are hidden peaks beyond this point you are not capturing?
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catherinecherub said:
Faulty meter?
Anaemia?
Needing to test later than 2 hours?
http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/A1CTest/#12
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Oh yes! If I have hidden peaks they are before an hour, or between 1 and 2 hours. I suspect at about 1.5hrs. I always drop at 2hrs and onwards. I did discover that my morning readings stay up in the 6's after breakfast for up to 3 hours, but no rises, and my afternoon and evening levels are 5's after 2 hours..

I haven't got anaemia, although my MCV and MCH are on the high end of normal.

I have a second meter, which is more or less in agreement with my Codefree.

It's a mystery, but I'm happy.
 
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