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One week in, i'm a newbie type 2 and have no idea where to start.

janeygwynn

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Location
south wales
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hello everyone, I am Jane, age 39 from south Wales.
Diagnosed type two last Tuesday, prescribed metformin and that's about all I know, oh and my fasting blood sugar was 16.5 in the diagnostic test.
I'm extremely overweight, need help I think to find some sort of weight loss/diabetic suiting diet plan and just wanna learn more about it all.
Thanks for reading, please say Hi.
xxxxxx
 
@janeygwynn

Hello Jane and welcome to the forum :)

To get you started, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Some members will be along soon to help with your levels and weight problems. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to give you some advice.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi! I was diagnosed in sept and have got my average reading (hba1c) down from 13.9 to 7.2 just before Christmas. I did it with a lot of help and advice from this forum. The main things that worked for me is testing to see which foods affect my blood sugar the most (wheat / flour) and completely avoiding those foods. Cutting down carbs, walking twice a week for an hour and eating at regular times. Read, absorb, try things out for yourself. It's completely do able I promise. I'm still trying to get my readings into the 5s.
 
Thank you both, what does hba1c actually stand for ?
my surgery haven't given me a test kit which I think is quite bizarre as I don't actually know how to see what foods affect me.
 
Hello everyone, I am Jane, age 39 from south Wales.
Diagnosed type two last Tuesday, prescribed metformin and that's about all I know, oh and my fasting blood sugar was 16.5 in the diagnostic test.
I'm extremely overweight, need help I think to find some sort of weight loss/diabetic suiting diet plan and just wanna learn more about it all.
Thanks for reading, please say Hi.
xxxxxx
Hi Jane! You could try low carbing. It sure helps with blood sugar. And weight loss of course.

Have a look at this site: http://www.dietdoctor.com/

I may be the first to recommend but not the last, Dietdoc is loved by a host of members on this site.
 
Most t2s are told not to bother testing and we buy our own test kits. I wouldn't have known how wheat and grain affect me so badly without it and would have prob carried on eating those foods and have been confused as to why it wasn't getting lower! Every one is different with regards to what "spikes" their blood sugar and in my opinion I wouldn't have a clue about controlling my levels without it. The one recommended to me was the code free from amazon which I'm happy with.
 
hello and welcome
firstly i would suggest buying a monitor if your gp won,t give you one. i bought my monitor and is my life line
secondly ask lots of questions and members here will help you
thirdly have a look around the site
 
Hi Jane and welcome.


You do need a meter otherwise you can't learn which foods your body can cope with. This is the Codefree http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm which is one many of us use because it has the cheapest strips, and you will need a lot of strips.

We are all different in which foods our bodies tolerate, but one thing brings us all together, and that is reduced carbs. All carbs convert to sugar once in the system, and as it is sugar that we don't want, we don't want too many carbs. Potatoes, rice, bread and pasta are the main culprits, and we also need to be careful with fruit and milk. Your meter will tell you what size portions of these foods you can handle. Some of us can cope with small portions, others have to avoid that food completely.

Have a look at this thread. http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/ There are some good starting points on there.

Meanwhile, don't panic, take a deep breath, read round this forum, and ask questions.
 
Hello everyone, I am Jane, age 39 from south Wales.
Diagnosed type two last Tuesday, prescribed metformin and that's about all I know, oh and my fasting blood sugar was 16.5 in the diagnostic test.
I'm extremely overweight, need help I think to find some sort of weight loss/diabetic suiting diet plan and just wanna learn more about it all.
Thanks for reading, please say Hi.
xxxxxx

Hello and welcome to the forum

RRB:)
 
Hello janiegwym, welcome , you are about the same as I was at the start of my " education" into the world of diabetis, this is the best forum and most friendly , just keep posting your questions here and you will get answers, my blood sugars were 28, and I was 18stone, I'm now 13. Stone 8 lbs and my blood sugars are 5.5 on average, most of the posters here are on lchf regime and use a meter to check their blood sugar levels on waking,before a meal and one hr and again two hrs after a meal,
This enables us to identify any foods that push up our blood sugar levels too high.
 
Hi Jane! You could try low carbing. It sure helps with blood sugar. And weight loss of course.

Have a look at this site: http://www.dietdoctor.com/

I may be the first to recommend but not the last, Dietdoc is loved by a host of members on this site.
@janeygwynn I have lost 4 stone from following diet doc. I would recommend the SD code free meter from the following link as the strips are £5.50 a pot if you buy 5 pots at a time which is about a 5 month supply. My bs is in the 5s now although fasting is between 6-7.
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@janeygwynn I have lost 4 stone from following diet doc. I would recommend the SD code free meter from the following link as the strips are £5.50 a pot if you buy 5 pots at a time which is about a 5 month supply. My bs is in the 5s now although fasting is between 6-7.
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@janeygwynn - If you're like most of us, you'll get through more than one pot a month, in your early days. Getting to know how you react to various foods and drinks is important, so it's worth an investment. Because I simplified my diet, I actually found our grocery shopping bill reduced when I modified my diet.

Good luck with it all.
 
Hi .. And welcome to the forums .. You will find that a lot of the advice given here .. By people who are diabetic will be the opposite to your Drs advice who is NOT diabetic !!!
I am at a loss to say why our medical advisors are not upto date with how to manage diabetes.. But at least here we can let you know what works for us. Personally I adopted the Low Carb High Fat way of eating ( when I say High Fat,.. I just ditched all my low fat products for full fat versions) others on these forums have adopted diffrent eating plans .. So do wander through the forums and find what works for you.
The advice of not to test by your Dr .. Is wrong .. You need to test or how will you know what's working.. Also you may have been shown the medical advice of eating to the Eat Well plate .. With carbs at every meal .. This is outdated and wrong .. So think carbs = sugar and then start reducing them .. Testing your blood for sugar .. Keeping a food diary to show what works for you is the best way to go forward now.
Also ask question here .. you are in a good place now to take control .. :pompous:
 
Welcome and stick with the forum as it is great support especially for new members.
 
Hello everyone, I am Jane, age 39 from south Wales.
Diagnosed type two last Tuesday, prescribed metformin and that's about all I know, oh and my fasting blood sugar was 16.5 in the diagnostic test.
I'm extremely overweight, need help I think to find some sort of weight loss/diabetic suiting diet plan and just wanna learn more about it all.
Thanks for reading, please say Hi.
xxxxxx
Hi Jane- welcome to our fantastic, supportive, informative friendly forum! You will soon feel so at home and get plenty of encouragement! I was like you six months ago and I know if I had just followed the "do not test" "carbs with everyday" advice at the surgery I would still be where I was then!! Get a meter, ditch the carbs ( I did it focused on b.s. levels and was amazed that it works for weight loss too!) , read as much as you can here and ask questions!! Keep posting too
 
Good morning everyone, thank you so much for your kind welcome and your friendly replies, I'm feeling very low and quite overwhelmed today, but realising that A) a blood sugar moniter is going to be vital, even if I have to buy one and B) that the LCHF way of life seems to be the most popular and successful way to go.
I thought Metformin was supposed to reduce your appitite and affect your stomach but its not and im still eating too much, I'm nineteen stone and desperate to loose weight.
Can some one give me any advice as to what I can nibble on in the evenings when I'm most hungry, and what are some good breakfasts to have please.xxxxxxxx
 
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