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My work performance has dropped

Sco81

Well-Known Member
Messages
94
Location
London
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
Hi,I started my job in November and until last week I have had a total of 4 days off. I found out I was diabetic beginning of January and at same time had a family member become critically ill and need a liver transplant. About 12 days ago came down with a sinus infection and had to take time off work and when I returned they ripped me apart saying my performance had dropped and they can't trust me anymore. I've been a chef for 20 years and have never been treated like a slave until I burn out then told I'm not good enough but on top of this I have to deal with being diabetic also. I'm on 2 types of tablets. Metformin and Dapagliflozin I seem to have little support or understanding from my work and have no idea what I can do. Thanks for reading.
 
Hi Sco,
Welcome aboard.. Sorry to hear you are having a tough time of things .. @daisy1 will be along later with your offical welcome pack. Other will be able to comment on your employment problems. My wife found that when she changed employers due to us moving to another part of the country she was treated dreadfully by her new employers .. It was more an area thing than a personal problem, as they treated all their staff with contempt ..
 
Hey enclave, mine is a mixture of over worked, extreme tiredness and emotional drain I think. Mixed with no support at work. I just would like to find out if help and advice is out there.or do I just carry on and maybe fine new employment. Thanks for reply
 
Hello @Sco81 and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
From what you have written you started your job in November and I assume that those 4 days off were you normal holiday over the festive season as you write them differently. You then fell ill with a sinus infection. Everybody has a right to be ill. I suggest that you write a letter of complaint to your HR (not your manager) and state exactly how you have been treated. Make sure it is factual. At the end you can then document how it has made you feel. If your managers attitude towards you has changed since you T2 diagnosis documents examples of this change in behaviour.

Have you told your employer that you have been diagnosed as T2? You now fall under the disability at work laws so they are obliged to make reasonable allowance. I understand it is difficult as you are in a probationary position and they may be "looking for a reason" and hence the importance of stating your grievance.

As for you condition can we help you get it under control and possibly reduce or stop the medication and make you feel more alive. We can help guide you in your diet; many here have had excellent progress. What was your diagnostic levels? Knowing these give a guide to how much change you need to make. Have a thorough read of the information @daisy1 has provided and then come back and ask whatever you need. If I can do it from a high 91 HbA1c to normal in 3 months then so can you. It doesn't have to be 3 months it is just I am a starter but not a finisher so I throw all my energy into a project at the start and cannot be bothered to complete. This is one I have to decide to see through to the end unfortunately.

By the way since sorting out my levels I feel like I have more energy and drive. I have been lucky in that my employer is actually pretty good at providing support when it is needed (from experience of managing others not for me). However, I do recognise it is very much driven by the individual staff on the ground and that is why I say write to your HR and not your direct manager/supervisor.
 
thanks for the replies and support, I didn't have time off over the festive period. from nov 5th I had 23rd nov (doc appointment and blood test) 23rd dec. (blood test) 2nd jan (blood test) 6th feb (diabetic nurse. when diagnosed I was the high blood pressure and high cholesterol as well as bad liver function. my liver was 120 what ever that means but last test its around 80 but still needs improvements. I will find out the rest of the results and let u know. random fasting blood tests I do myself and at doctors are around 12-16. the hba1c was 88 I believe. my weight is 17st but im rugby build 6'4 in hight. im 34 and diabetes runs in my family. I think 11 members have it. what u have done Andrew is amazing. and hopefully u inspire many to do the same thank you
 
I did inform my manager before my tests and after so she has always been in the loop. from end of December I was saying im tired and run down. but no change, she actually made out she was doing it as a favour to me working 7 day weeks or 30 day months.
 
ok those numbers are fairly high and must be making you feel unwell. I was 17 stone 9 on diagnosis but I am a little shorter than you and I also had a build associated with rugby; the ball.

You have seven members of your family and you are fairly young. What a raw genetic inheritance for you. There are other types of diabetes like MODY which you may want to research and discuss with your doctor. That tends to run heavily in families and is generally caused by a faulty gene.

If you would like to bring your levels down I would suggest getting a blood glucose meter - most surgeries will not issue them any more so many of us purchase an SD Codefree meter as the test strips are only about £7 per 50 (price varies on build purchase) and you can get it from homehealth-uk.com .
Also provide us with a typical days diet and people will be able to assist you with what could be raising your levels and what is likely to be ok to eat.

Many on the forum follow a low carb diet and a few follow the NHS low GI approach with varying success. Personally, I went on a very low calorie diet for several months, shed my rugby ball and turned into a liquorice torpedo. This worked for me and is the basis of the newcastle diet of which there are a few people actively following at the moment with the hope of reversal.
 
I get days that I feel really strange, its hard to describe. confused and dizzy.i have a blood reader and check once a day in mornings. always high. my diet is usually toast in morning, a lunch at work so depends whats on the menu. its healthy but always has some sort of carbs. potato and carrots. but then broccoli or cabbage or peas etc. meals range from roast dinners, stews, cottage pie basic things as I work in a care home if u would believe lol. then in the evening I would have something like sandwiches or a quiche. things like that. and drink maybe 2-4 ltr off water a day and 3-4 coffees. before I was diabetic I was always eating on the run as so busy so pizza or pasta stuff like that
 
Hi @Sco81 , welcome and sorry to hear about your recent trials and tribulations. As Andrew says do get yourself checked out for something like MODY (Maturity-Onset Diabetes of the Young). From your meal descriptions above I would say there are far too many carbs there - toast, potatoes, peas, cottage pie (the potato), sandwiches, quiche (pastry), pizzas, pasta. Reducing those significantly would make a good start to getting your blood sugars down.

Have a read of the first link in my sig and ask any questions.
 
Hi Sco ... Sorry I posted to you early this morning and fell asleep before you replied .. :sorry:
One big peice of advice .. Please don't listen to the eating healthy blurb given out by experts .. Medics and DNS ... It will make your sugar levels rise .. Honestly ... I did that my self went from 19st to 21st and bs around the 6.0 to 21.0 ! This was eating as advised with increasing my carbs in every meal and 'Eating healthy'
You need to turn this around .. I follow the low carb full fat eating advice now .. In a year have shed 5st and my sugar levels are in the normal range as are all my blood results. There are other eating plans available .. But this works for me .. I dumped all my 'healthy' low fat foods and replaced them with full fat ones ... Stopped eating bread .. Potatoes..rice .. Pasta as carbs turn to sugar once eaten .. I have around 30g of carbs a day .. I feel good .. The wife says I look good .. And my dr and DNS have no idea what I am doing .. As being a man I just say the wife changed the way I eat ... No details are given as they will say I am wrong and try to stop me.
I test before and 2 hrs after eating noting down what's eaten with the bs results .. I have a good core of foods I am ok with and have reduce the number of times I need to test now.
I hope this helps .. Sorry for not getting back earlier :banghead:
 
Hi @@Sco81 ,

I'm so sorry you are having a tough time at work. Your employer doesn't sound much like a caring sort of person to me.

If you grab this disease by the horns and start to control it, rather than letting it control you, I promise you will feel much better in yourself. A good sustainable diet is the key, and for us diabetics this means vastly reducing the carbs we eat - bread, potatoes, pastry, rice, pasta and cereals. Carbs convert to glucose once inside the system, and as we don't want glucose in our blood stream it makes sense to reduce those carbs to a level our pancreas can cope with.

Test before you eat and again 2 hours after. You will see what that meal has done to your levels. The rise from before to after should be less than 2mmol/l, preferably less than 1.5mmol/l. Please have a good read round these forums and ask a lot of questions. You can get those levels down, but will have to change your diet to do it. Medication will help a little, but diet is the main thing.
 
I know my nan on my dads side had it, my dad also had it. his was totally out of control. he used to faint and actually passed out while driving and had a huge accident where he was in hospital for 9 months. in the end it killed him. I think ive had this a good few years. and im told im very young to have this. wil the doctor do tests to find out if im mody? thanks for all the help
 
We're your family T2 or T1 ?
Your carb intake looks very high at the moment .. Keep testing and reduce the carbs .. Remembering to add full fat foods and see how it affects your sugar levels ..
If you start to feel very unwell with high sugar readings then get someone to take you to A&E or ring 111 for pro advice.
 
Hello and welcome.
Sorry you are not well.people on the forum will help you.
Why not take a couple of weeks on the sick to get yourself sorted.
They cant finish or blame you for being sick.
 
You might find it helpful to have a read of this thread. The circumstances aren't identical to yours, but you might find some useful information in there....
 
I was thinking that but I would not be able to survive lol. I don't get sick pay at work and they refuse to use my holiday entitlement for it. I was off for a week beginning of feb. If I'm honest being a chef isn't to great with being a t2 diabetic. Always food around and have to taste everything.
 
Hi and welcome. Once diabetes is under control then that in itself won't cause you to feel ill or tired etc. Currently as you know you have blood sugar that is too high and that may be making you feel tired (it didn't for me but it does for some others). Yes, your carb intake is too high so take the advice given by others on this from to low-carb. Once you BMI is below 25'ish it will easier to confrim your actual diabetes type. Yes, at your age T2 is unusual but not if your BMI is way too high. You may be MODY, LADA etc but it's much easier to diagnose these once any insulin resistance from excess weight is removed
 
You're in a difficult place then. You need the job, but it's stressful and bad for your health. So ... do you try to ignore the demands of the diabetes to keep the job, or put your health first and become unemployed, creating new stress? Keep talking to us and a solution will emerge.
 
I will follow advice and see how it goes. I'm sure it will be a bumpy road for a while with ups and downs. I will ask doctors about the different types I could be. Thanks everyone for all your support and advice. Has really helped a lot
 
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