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Fairy88

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi everyone,

i'm knew to the forum, just diagnosed type 2 yesterday after having all of the signs, blood sugars are running ridiculously high and i don't really know what too do, there is so much conflicting information on the internet isn't there?!

i'm only 27 (it's my birthday today) so to be diagnosed was a massive shock to the system and yep i cried!

i had quite bad gestational diabetes in both my pregnancys (6 years and 2 years ago) and used insulin and metformin to control it. i was aware it was "more likely" to happen but just didn't realise quite so soon.

Dr has put me on metformin twice daily and said she will see me in a weeks time, to see if my sugars have improved.

i go too slimming world every week and have been losing weight steadily since i had my daughter 2 years ago, my diet isn't bad...confused!

just wanted to introduce myself really :-)

sorry for rambling on lol!

:-)
 
Hi and welcome to the diabetes forum. I'm sorry to hear that you have developed into full diabetes Type 2. It can come as a complete shock when it isn't expected, but you have found the right place to start from and Daisy will send the basic into on to you.
Please feel free to ask any question that you might have, though if you care to look through this site you will discover many of the answers without having to ask.
The secret to controlling you diabetes is knowledge of diet, sensible exercise and medications (If you need them). The NHS isn't always the best at giving or helping someone with diabetes as I'm sure you will discover, but many here have found answers that actually are proven to work and control diabetes from a practical point.
Take each day as it comes
Best wishes for the future.
 
Hi fairy, well this forum is a good way to start, and plenty of really helpful people will be along soon.
First of all read the forum particularly take note of low carbing healthy fats. That means removing all the white stuff, pasta, spuds, rice etc. the only fruit worth eating are berries. But the best advice is to buy a meter - a code free one with cheaper strips, you test before and 2 hours after a meal.
Good luck.
 
Hi and welcome. @daisy1 will be along soon with some useful information for new members.

Don't beat yourself up about diet - my understanding is that if you have had gestational diabetes you are extremely likely to go on and develop T2, whatever you do. Having said which, you will get lots of good advice and ideas about diet on here. Many members find that keeping your carbohydrate intake under control is very helpful in keeping your blood sugar levels down. You will hear various degrees of fervour about this - personally I try to avoid starchy stuff like pasta, spuds, bread and so forth, but without taking it to extremes, and that has helped me a lot. Be aware that this doesn't necessarily conform with the official NHS mantra of starchy carbs with every meal as part of a "balanced plate" - but you must decide what works best for you.

What I would say about this forum is that it's helped me decide how to play it for myself, which is the best form of control, always. Hang around :)
 
Hi everyone,

i'm knew to the forum, just diagnosed type 2 yesterday after having all of the signs, blood sugars are running ridiculously high and i don't really know what too do, there is so much conflicting information on the internet isn't there?!

i'm only 27 (it's my birthday today) so to be diagnosed was a massive shock to the system and yep i cried!

i had quite bad gestational diabetes in both my pregnancys (6 years and 2 years ago) and used insulin and metformin to control it. i was aware it was "more likely" to happen but just didn't realise quite so soon.

Dr has put me on metformin twice daily and said she will see me in a weeks time, to see if my sugars have improved.

i go too slimming world every week and have been losing weight steadily since i had my daughter 2 years ago, my diet isn't bad...confused!

just wanted to introduce myself really :-)

sorry for rambling on lol!

:-)
Hello ,and welcome to the forumFairy88, i'll tag @daisy1 for the info given to new posters, have a read an come back and ask as many q's as you like, the shock of being diagnosed will abate, and you will see that with the good advices on this forum we can control diabetes,
 
Thanks for your replies, i'm going to have a good read over the forum over the next few days, i do have a meter, the GP gave me one yesterday, fasting sugars this morning was 14,2 :eek:, i guess its just going to be a case of trial and error to lower them. so weird that all over the internet says about low carbs but then the nhs websites etc all say about having 1/4 starchy foods at every meal lol!

just had homemade lowfat chilli with basmati rice for lunch, but only ate the chilli and a couple of spoons of rice, see how that goes x
 
The NHS isn't always right as you will find out from the information many have posted here on this excellent web site. It's a great pity that the NHS dieticians don't follow the advice given here on Low Carb High Fat diets (LCHF) they might then learn something of practical use in controlling Type 2 diabetes instead of towing the line. !!! .
 
Thanks for your replies, i'm going to have a good read over the forum over the next few days, i do have a meter, the GP gave me one yesterday, fasting sugars this morning was 14,2 :eek:, i guess its just going to be a case of trial and error to lower them. so weird that all over the internet says about low carbs but then the nhs websites etc all say about having 1/4 starchy foods at every meal lol!

just had homemade lowfat chilli with basmati rice for lunch, but only ate the chilli and a couple of spoons of rice, see how that goes x
Give it time; your levels will come down. Ironically, your fasting level may be one of the worse figures of the day - try searching for "liver dump" if you want to know more.

Lunch sounds nice: so far as rice is concerned, blitzed cauliflower makes a good low-carb substitute, either plain steamed (boiled rice") or stir-fried with curry powder and/or spices ("Pilau"). Neither are actually rice, obvs, but they give an acceptable illusion :)

I sometimes go the blitzed cauliflower route but with a bit of cooked rice added - you were right to go with Basmati, it's better carb-wise than its brethren....
 
@Fairy88

Hello and Happy Birthday - forget about diabetes for today and start tomorrow:) Some good advice from members already today. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
wow, everyone, thank you so much for all your support already, bit overwhelmed and seems like you are all a wealth of knowledge. again, thank you, ill have a good read when i have finished work x
 
Thanks for your replies, i'm going to have a good read over the forum over the next few days, i do have a meter, the GP gave me one yesterday, fasting sugars this morning was 14,2 :eek:, i guess its just going to be a case of trial and error to lower them. so weird that all over the internet says about low carbs but then the nhs websites etc all say about having 1/4 starchy foods at every meal lol!

just had homemade lowfat chilli with basmati rice for lunch, but only ate the chilli and a couple of spoons of rice, see how that goes x
Most of us lchf which controls our bs's, have a read around to see the thread " what have you eaten today"
 
Most of us lchf which controls our bs's, have a read around to see the thread " what have you eaten today"


yeah i definately will do, my reading after the chilli and a couple of spoons of rice was 17, that was two hours after. quite looking forward to having a good read :-) x
 
Hi @Fairy88 Welcome to the forum. I have had to cut out carbs almost completely. I wasted several months following the recommended diet with moderate carbs until the forums here put me right and I ditched virtually all carbs; do the LCHF diet now and BS much better but not perfect.
 
Hey Fairy, hope you're feeling a little better after having a good read. Diabetes is very manageable with the right advice. The NHS guidelines are horribly outdated.

Stick with the forum and fire questions as often as you need, you'll get first class advice here.

All the best.
Daks
 
Hi Fairy and Happy Birthday :) I was diagnosed 5 months ago and by following a low carb full fat plan I have lost 3 stones very easily ( and I was a frequent visitor to Slimming World prior to this lol ) So my advice to you is in the first instant stick with this forum and the lovely people here , test , test and test again and you will learn to " eat to your meter " as foods that some can tolerate happily, other can't and vice versa. All the best to you x
 
Thank you for your replies.
@Sooze, i've just been looking into LCHF, but if i'm honest it really scares me lol, it doesn't seem right lol x
 
Thank you for your replies.
@Sooze, i've just been looking into LCHF, but if i'm honest it really scares me lol, it doesn't seem right lol x
You might like to read up ..try jenny rhul's diet 101 explains the lchf regime better than i can, ps happy birthday::))
 
You might like to read up ..try jenny rhul's diet 101 explains the lchf regime better than i can, ps happy birthday::))

Thanks, thats exactly what i'm going to spend my birthday night doing lol, resarch! thanks for the birthday wishes :-) x
 
Welcome @Fairy88 , welcome and happy birthday :). You might also find the links in my sig below interesting reading.
 
Hi. Can I ask whether you are overweight now? At 27, T2 is not very common unless you have excess weight and late onset T1 is more common if combined with being slim or having lost weight unexpectedly. Yes, do low-carb. You could say that NHS diet advice is out-dated but in fact it has never been based on any good science; I think the dieticians make it up or look at their crystals.
 
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