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Stemar

Stemar

Well-Known Member
Messages
145
Location
Coogee, Sydney, NSW. Australia.
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi Everyone,

I hope this finds you all in good health with low BGL's, plus doing what you need to do!!!

Well I'm at a miss today,
06:30 hrs, My BGL's were out of the ball park this morning, 20.5. I had 2 slices of wholemeal toast, with a Banana on each, plus a Coffee with 1 teaspoon of White Sugar.
12:00 hrs, I didn't take my BGL's since my breakfast as I'm a bit worried about how high they'll be when I do.
Tea (Dinner) I'm not sure yet as I haven't made up my mind.

I understand this isn't the place to ask questions, but I'm hear now. Well my question is as follows.
About 11:20 hrs today I was in a shop buying something and as I left the shop I suddenly became light headed and slightly nauseus, I needed to lean against the shop window until the feelings eased, but as I started to walk away the feelings came back again, so I sort of sat against the wall of a shop until they subsided, that was 4 hrs ago and the feelings haven't reacurred since. This is the first time that they have ocurred at all. So can anyone tell me if they could be related to my diabetes and the high BGL's I've been experiancing for the past few weeks, or so. I want too thank you all for any assistance that can be given to me, so I can understand what brought this incerdent on and why it even occurred, when it did.?

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
Whoops ...... Made a mess of that one,
Hi Stemar
It's way above my pay grade to answer that one, there are more knowledgeable people here to do that, but with my heart Meds, a consultant once said when I was experiencing something similar, was due to low blood pressure, maybe get that checked At that time my BS readings where in the high 20s ie 28 [/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
 
Hi Wildrover,

First let me thank you for your imput, as I feel if your a member of this Forum for any length of time, you get to pick-up a number of different topics that impact on this Disease, with all the information that other place on it in relation to their situation, or someone they know, so stick it out even if it's just for something to do eachday. Once again I thank you for your response to my situation.

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
Hi Stemar. I don't know how high your BSL went, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it went to high 20's or more.

I know that before I had my diabetes under control that I definitely had symptoms like that (feeling faint and light headed, unexplained exhaustion etc) when my levels were up in that range.
 
Basically I would say you have eaten to many carbohydrates and sugar. Two slices of bread could be around 35 to 40g of carbohydrates. A medium sized banana is approximately 20g of carbs x2. Sugar is 5g. So you have eaten approximately 80g of carbohydrates. For many people here that would be over a day's worth of carbohydrates. I very much doubt that your meds can deal with this.
I would need to take 12 units of insulin to deal with that meal. I aim for around 20 to 25g of carbs per meal max. But that's me. We all set our own limits.
 
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Hi Mike,

I live in Sydney, I see your getting another leg of the Rugby Leagues State of Origin, at the MCG next month. Do you have an interest in Rugby League, or are you a full on supporter, for the AFL?

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
uart said:
Hi Stemar. I don't know how high your BSL went, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it went to high 20's or more.

I know that before I had my diabetes under control that I definitely had symptoms like that (feeling faint and light headed, unexplained exhaustion etc) when my levels were up in that range.
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Hi Uart,

Thanks for your imput as I totally understand it, as my BGL's have been between 12.5 and 27.8 for the past 2 or 3 weeks, so your imput shines a light on what happened, as that was the first time I experienced anything like this and it made me a bit worried as to what was happening, so thank you for taking away that feeling and making my attension more onto being more active each day!!!

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
Nuthead said:
Basically I would say you have eaten to many carbohydrates and sugar. Two slices of bread could be around 35 to 40g of carbohydrates. A medium sized banana is approximately 20g of carbs x2. Sugar is 5g. So you have eaten approximately 80g of carbohydrates. For many people here that would be over a day's worth of carbohydrates. I very much doubt that your meds can deal with this.
I would need to take 12 units of insulin to deal with that meal. I aim for around 20 to 25g of carbs per meal max. But that's me. We all set our own limits.
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Hi Nuthead,

Thanks for your imput as even though I've been aware of my condition for about 18 mths now, the first 8 or 10 mths I was in denial and did nothing to alter my disease. So as far as the rest of the time goes I sort of bungled my way through, then I came accross this web site about 3 weeks ago and I've found it very helpful as everyone is in the same situation, theirs no body judging another and the general imput is very helpful as it's been used by someone in the past, so I intend to hang around for sometime to come, so I hope we come accross one another from time too time!!!

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
Stemar said:
Hi Mike,

I live in Sydney, I see your getting another leg of the Rugby Leagues State of Origin, at the MCG next month. Do you have an interest in Rugby League, or are you a full on supporter, for the AFL?

Stemar, (Downunder)
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Hi Stemar

I wished I could say I followed it, but no, I don't. Solid AFL.

Cheers and good luck with your issues :)

Mike
 
Stemar said:
Thanks for your imput as I totally understand it, as my BGL's have been between 12.5 and 27.8 for the past 2 or 3 weeks
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I've been aware of my condition for about 18 mths now, the first 8 or 10 mths I was in denial and did nothing to alter my disease. So as far as the rest of the time goes I sort of bungled my way through.
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Hi Stemar. What sort of BG levels have you had over the past 18 months. Have they been consistently up in double digits, or have things just deteriorated rapidly over the past three weeks? In either case it appears that you definitely need more help, either with diet or with new medication or both.

To be honest I was in a very similar situation when I was first diagnosed about two years ago, BGLs (mmol/L) in the high 20's and very sick. They put me on metformin (that's what is in the Metex you're on btw) and it did close to nothing. I had to go onto other oral medications that stimulates insulin production (glicazide) before I could get my levels down to anywhere even close to normal.

Also take a serious look at the LCHF forums here. Yes that really is low carb and high fat, but trust me it works! I've lost about 10kg and got much better BGL control since starting LCHF this January. It sounds crazy I know, but it's not.
 
Hi Uart,

Thanks again for your imput as it was very informing as I could relate to just about everything you infered, I was getting my BGL's under control when I was walking about 30 to 45 minutes eachday except Sunday's, as I got them down to between 5 to 8 most times, but then I stopped walking due to lazyness and a lack of motavation, I also stopped taking my readings altogether, so I'm totally aware that my current situation is all my own fault. But since being a part of this Forum I've obtained a much better understanding of the importance of each aspect of control, and how important they are, so I start walking again tomorrow.

The doctors, even though their trying to help don't really explain things in terms that the average person can understand, or even relate too, as evey few words is either complicated, or unspellable, by the time you get to a dictionary you've forgotten what it was. So I'm glad I found this forum and the people who are on it, like yourself so thank you for your much welcomed help.

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
have to agree if I get up too quickly from the couch after watching TV for a while I go light headed and have to hold onto something for a minute until it subsides ...blood pressure drops :(
 
Hello Stemar
I experienced the same symptoms as you some years ago, long before I was diagnosed with T2. After extensive tests it was discovered that I had a serious heart problem and needed a pacemaker.
Feeling light headed and nauseous can be caused by many things, In your case my money would be on your high blood sugar levels. But if you get the same symptoms again I think you would be wise to see your doctor and get it checked out.
Here's a couple of links I think might be helpful.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
 
Hi Stemar,
It sounds as if you've had your "oh b****r" moment.
Diabetes means changing your ideas on what constitutes a good meal. Type 2 diabetics can no longer process large amounts of carbs. How much you can process in one go will be individual to you and needs to be found out using the glucose meter.
I have found that regular exercise helps with the regulation of blood glucose.
For the short(ish) term, no cakes, biscuits etc. Much reduced complex carbs.
It's a pain, especially when eating out, but I'm getting into a pattern.
Eggs make a good breakfast.
Fish is a good source of protein.
Cheese is not the enemy some claim it is.

Best wishes
Adam
 
uart said:
Hi Stemar. What sort of BG levels have you had over the past 18 months. Have they been consistently up in double digits, or have things just deteriorated rapidly over the past three weeks? In either case it appears that you definitely need more help, either with diet or with new medication or both.

To be honest I was in a very similar situation when I was first diagnosed about two years ago, BGLs (mmol/L) in the high 20's and very sick. They put me on metformin (that's what is in the Metex you're on btw) and it did close to nothing. I had to go onto other oral medications that stimulates insulin production (glicazide) before I could get my levels down to anywhere even close to normal.

Also take a serious look at the LCHF forums here. Yes that really is low carb and high fat, but trust me it works! I've lost about 10kg and got much better BGL control since starting LCHF this January. It sounds crazy I know, but it's not.
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Hi Uart,

Just to add a bit to my earlyer response to your imput, I was diagnosed about 18 months ago but for the next 9, or 10 months, I didn't do anything to get a handle on my condition, as I was totally in denial, I thought because I didn't feel sick and nothing had changed in my day to day life, it must be a mistake. Then somebody pointed out that weight had a big impact on diabetes and at that time I weighed 98 kilos and this flucturated 3, or 4 kilos either way, after thinking about my weight I realised I was 30 odd kilos over weight, so I started walking eachday and started to consider what I was eatting. For the next 6, or 7 months I managed to get my weight down to 78 kilos and my BGL's were around 5, to 8 most times, but every now and again it would go to low double figures (11). I stopped walking and excersising altogether about 2 months ago, due to circumstances beyond my control, the first month my BGL's remained within a reasonable range, but then they started to climb and I stopped taking them, until I found myself becomming very lathargic and when ever I sat down I'd fall asleep, and I lost the motivation to do anything unless I didn't have a choice, because it needed to be done. I became concernd as to why I was sleepping so much, as some day's I sleep on and off all day on top of a nights sleep, which was not normal for me, so I started checking my BGL's again about 4 weeks ago and they were in the mid to high range 20's, on a daily basis, which gave me reasons for concern then I had the incident where I became light headed and a bit nausius, but this was the first and only time I had suffered this sympton, but I started walking and eatting the correct foods and within a few days my BGL's showed a big improvement as I got them down to a 9.7 and 14.4 but there was still the odd high reading, but I intend to continue walking and using the recipes I came accross in the meals on this Forums Meal Planer. Anyway I've taken up to much of your time for which I'm sorry.

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
PatsyB said:
have to agree if I get up too quickly from the couch after watching TV for a while I go light headed and have to hold onto something for a minute until it subsides ...blood pressure drops :(
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Hi PatsyB,

I was having high BGL's in the High 20's for a few weeks, and this incident was a one off, I think it was the bodies way of telling me to wake up to myself and get control of my day to day action to this disease. But I thank you for your imput as it's all helpful, so thank you.

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
catinahat said:
Hello Stemar
I experienced the same symptoms as you some years ago, long before I was diagnosed with T2. After extensive tests it was discovered that I had a serious heart problem and needed a pacemaker.
Feeling light headed and nauseous can be caused by many things, In your case my money would be on your high blood sugar levels. But if you get the same symptoms again I think you would be wise to see your doctor and get it checked out.
Here's a couple of links I think might be helpful.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
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Hi Catinahat,

Thank you for your imput and the 2 links you supplied, as they were very helpful. I agree with you in relation to my high BGL's, as they were in the mid to high 20's just about every day for the last month, but since joining this forum and recieving the assistance and imput from people in a similar situation, I've been able to see the error of my ways, by reading the responses, plus any links, or sites they directed me too and also taking advantage of the menus that also appear on the site and by doing so, I've managed to lower my BGL's to the lower end of double figures, with the odd high reading of 17 or 18, all I need to extra is start walking again. So I'm truely glad I came accross this site and the people who find themselves in the same boat and are willing to assist the many others who can benifit from their imput, so for that I thank you.

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
Phlogiston said:
Hi Stemar,
It sounds as if you've had your "oh b****r" moment.
Diabetes means changing your ideas on what constitutes a good meal. Type 2 diabetics can no longer process large amounts of carbs. How much you can process in one go will be individual to you and needs to be found out using the glucose meter.
I have found that regular exercise helps with the regulation of blood glucose.
For the short(ish) term, no cakes, biscuits etc. Much reduced complex carbs.
It's a pain, especially when eating out, but I'm getting into a pattern.
Eggs make a good breakfast.
Fish is a good source of protein.
Cheese is not the enemy some claim it is.

Best wishes
Adam
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Hi Adam,

I'd say your totaly right about my "Oh B****r" moment, not that I know what "B****r" is, but it was a Wake-Up Call, making me realise that I can't take my condition lightly anymore. It gives you a false feeling that nothing is wrong, while it creeps up on you and at the same time it attackes your internals, causing irrepairable damage if you don't take this disease serious, which with the help of people like yourself and this forum can only assist me and the many others who rely on the help that's freely given by people in the same boat, like yourself so thank you for your imput and I'll be taking a positive approach from this point on.

Stemar, (Downunder)
 
B*****r is a slightly rude word, that is (I think) considered a bit less rude in the Antipodes.
I wasn't sure if the site filters would allow such a word.
Keep your eye on the longer term.
Best wishes
Adam
 
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