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Soy products

Pinkorchid

Pinkorchid

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What is bad about soy. I have read here sometimes that some people say soy products are not good so they would not eat them. I just wondered why as I believe that soy like tofu for many vegetarians is a staple food in their diet as it is an excellent source of protein for them as they do not get it from meat or fish so what is so bad about it
 
It would be interesting what the opinion is of any vegetarians here do they have it or not
 
The wife and I are vegetarians and we do eat frozen Soy beans and LM sausages and burgers as they are an easy way of getting more protein..
There is a problem with some of it maybe genetically engineered.. It also may cause thyroid or cancer problems ..we have soy less than once a week ..
Don't touch tofu it's a big No No in our home, as is quorn.
 
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Husband & I both eat soy foods @Pinkorchid - soysages soy chicken, soy bacon & tofu. I sometimes make my own veg bacon out of tempeh (which is supposed to be better for you) but it's a bit salty so I'm still tweaking the marinade.

I'm familiar with the concerns surrounding them but we don't eat huge amounts & neither of us have suffered any ill effects as yet. They are a good source of protein & the brand we buy is also a good source of B12, potassium, zinc & iron so for now we'll risk it :)

safi
 
Enclave said:
The wife and I are vegetarians and we do eat frozen Soy beans and LM sausages and burgers as they are an easy way of getting more protein..
There is a problem with some of it maybe genetically engineered.. It also may cause thyroid or cancer problems ..we have soy less than once a week ..
Don't touch tofu it's a big No No in our home, as is quorn.
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I understand that Tofu is made from soy bean curd that is coagulated and pressed into blocks and I have had that quite a lot and I do use Quorn as well. I had not heard until this group that they are not good
 
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catherinecherub said:
This article explains about the possible side effects and studies that have been done.

http://authoritynutrition.com/is-soy-bad-for-you-or-good/
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justbe said:
I don't fully understand the biology behind it, but I've seen studies saying that the autoimmune response in diabetes involves a protein which closely resembles the proteins found in milk and soy. Close enough that an immune response to one can lead to an immune response to all three. So if you're diabetic, it may be that you're also allergic to soy or milk -- it might create an inflammation in your gut, or make you constipated (or the opposite), for example. It MIGHT even be that one of those caused your diabetes, but it seems no one's ready to commit to that possibility yet without more evidence.
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This is interesting, my daughter is intolerant to all the three and is type 1. She is only 2 and life is quite tricky without these products in her diet. Anybody else???
 
I tried soya and am OK with small amounts but I have found I pile on the pounds if I have much of it as it adversely affects my thyroid. I understand that this doesn't happen with everyone, but it does with me. (I was told this by a nutritionist)
 
Well, that's me stuffed if soy beans are bad for you. Am vegetarian but can't eat much high fat dairy as makes me feel ill. Since being diagnosed with Type 2 and high cholesterol, I've cut out what little cheese I ate and been pretty much living on tofu and vegetables with reduced amounts of wholegrain carbs.
 
Daffodil373 said:
Well, that's me stuffed if soy beans are bad for you. Am vegetarian but can't eat much high fat dairy as makes me feel ill. Since being diagnosed with Type 2 and high cholesterol, I've cut out what little cheese I ate and been pretty much living on tofu and vegetables with reduced amounts of wholegrain carbs.
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That is terrible, from our experience cutting out soy and dayry at the same time is harsh. Are you cooking enough lentils, beans, chickpeas? I know it is not full diet but a suggestion.
 
TanyaEmily said:
Does your intolerance influence your bg? It seems to me when our daughter eats one of the triggers she gets uncontrollably high, anything you experienced? Thanks
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Kind of. A portion of yog at breakfast will spike me by 3-4 mmol/l.
Not horrific, but waaaay over target. Falls quite quickly, and then leaves me ravenous.

Consequently I have switched from milk in drinks and stopped having any carbs (including milk) at breakfast because they spike me so much - brekkie is either just coffee n cream or, at the weekends, a protein fat meal like eggs and bacon. At other times, a smidge of milk or a smidge of soya is ok. Although soya makes me thirsty. Always.

The good news is that i am fine with cream, butter and cheese. :D

Tend to also avoid grains and wheat in particular, because they spike me too.

But these are, for me, just mild food intolerances. If i didnt have a bg meter i would hardly be aware of them. As it is, the numbers game was hard to miss!
 
Daffodil373 said:
Well, that's me stuffed if soy beans are bad for you. Am vegetarian but can't eat much high fat dairy as makes me feel ill. Since being diagnosed with Type 2 and high cholesterol, I've cut out what little cheese I ate and been pretty much living on tofu and vegetables with reduced amounts of wholegrain carbs.
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You won't stop eating it will you it seems it is essential for you as you can't eat much fat it must be your main source of protein as it is for many vegetarians. I am not a vegetarian but I like tofu so I will continue to eat it and I use soya milk sometimes in place of normal milk in sauces I like the flavour it gives.
 
I got used to regularly eating bean curd, fresh soya beans and other soya things after several years living in China - and love tempeh! But from reading the article in the link, I'm not sure that I want to now exclude it from my diet - I think my conclusion is much the same as Pinkorchid's.
 
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