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Stunned Overwhelmed and more than a little bit Scared

PeterNealon

Member
Messages
6
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
feeling hungry
Told today am a type 2 diabetic!!!! How the hell did that happen???? Gonna take a bit of time to get my head round it but looks l've found a good place to start. Spent all day looking at info online about foods good and bad.........so much conflicting information .........looks like best get a testing device and trial and error it from there.
 
Hi and welcome,

It looks like you won't be needing much help - you are more than half way there. ;) A meter will tell you what you can and can't eat. As you say, trial and error. Have a good read round, and meanwhile I'll tag @daisy1 to come along with the advice for newly diagnosed. Ask all the questions you like.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. You are definately in the right place to get yourself on track. If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask, we are a helpful bunch.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. You are definitely on the right track by getting a meter. I personally think they're the best investment anyone - diabetic or otherwise - can make in their health.

If you want some additional reading, there's a link to a great guide for low carb beginners in my signature.
 
@PeterNealon

Hello Peter and welcome to the forum :) To help get you started, here is the information we give to new members. Ask any questions you want and someone will be able to help you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hello @PeterNealon , welcome. After your reading yesterday you must be starting to get your head around the information. It always comes as shock but this website is brilliant as it is full of kind, supportive people with first hand knowledge. :)
 
Hello and welcome ..getting a meter is the first best thing you can do ..don`t be afraid to ask questions you will get all the help and advice you need on here
 
This forum has been more help than anything else for me - I've asked question after question, and always got really helpful answers. But I'm learning what works well for one person, isn't necessarily the answer for the next person. We do all vary a lot more than I was expecting, and so working things out for me is taking a lot longer than I expected. I'd go crazy if I couldn't come here and get help.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. You are definitely on the right track by getting a meter. I personally think they're the best investment anyone - diabetic or otherwise - can make in their health.

If you want some additional reading, there's a link to a great guide for low carb beginners in my signature.
Hi and thanks .......went to get a machine today ........cant believe the price of the strips you need!!! The link will be an immense help thank you
 
@PeterNealon

Hello Peter and welcome to the forum :) To help get you started, here is the information we give to new members. Ask any questions you want and someone will be able to help you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Oh dear!!! Many of us here use the Codefree, which has the cheapest strips going. http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm and even cheaper with the discount codes. They work out at about £5 for 50.

5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833
That looks a lot better than the £29.99 i was being told for 50. Thanks a lot for that link
 
Just saying hi. I was diagnosed in June and pretty much cried (when not at work) for the first week so have some idea of what you are feeling. I lurked on the forums for a while which really helped. Lots of people here are coping really well which was such a relief as many American sites seemed to just focus on the negatives.
Keep testing and keep learning.
 
Not sure why I decided on it, but I bought a Gluco Rx Nexus, which I really like. (How terrible to admit the appearance of the machine makes me like using it!) I've been buying test strips from this website's shop - assuming I'd get the best deal here. Should I be shopping around?
 
Told today am a type 2 diabetic!!!! How the hell did that happen???? Gonna take a bit of time to get my head round it but looks l've found a good place to start. Spent all day looking at info online about foods good and bad.........so much conflicting information .........looks like best get a testing device and trial and error it from there.
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm

This a diabetes program designed to reverse your diabetes. It is made by professor Roy Taylor at NEwcastle university, read it carfully and good luck!
 
Not sure why I decided on it, but I bought a Gluco Rx Nexus, which I really like. (How terrible to admit the appearance of the machine makes me like using it!) I've been buying test strips from this website's shop - assuming I'd get the best deal here. Should I be shopping around?
It might be worth it - I have the Accu-Chek nano (because I liked the look of it and it had the Fast-clik lancet) and can often find strips half the price that I would pay in the chemist etc.
 
Just saying hi. I was diagnosed in June and pretty much cried (when not at work) for the first week so have some idea of what you are feeling. I lurked on the forums for a while which really helped. Lots of people here are coping really well which was such a relief as many American sites seemed to just focus on the negatives.
Keep testing and keep learning.

Thank you has been a major shock......don't drink .......never smoked.......food was my only real vice...... gonna take a lot of getting used to eating what i want!!
 
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