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ju62

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Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
Hi, I was diagnosed type 2 two years ago December. My symptoms were dizziness/light headedness, extreme thirst & frequent urination. I was diabetic during my pregnancies (my children are all now well into their 20's) & this was diet controlled. So, after diet failed I was put on Metformin, put up with the upset stomachs for almost a year until I could bear it no longer, then went on to modified released version which stopped the upset stomachs but made me feel dizzy/light headed like before diagnosis, I went to my doctor who told me that the medication wouldn't give me these symptoms & took me off them for a week to see how I felt off them, I felt better. I went back for my follow up appointment & my doctor was off ill so had to see another doctor who's response was 'if you feel ill off them then you may as well feel ill on them & there was no other choice but Metformin! Apparently I was diagnosed at a 'bad time' - no diabetic nurse until now, two of the treatment room nurses are training to become diabetic nurses, one of which I'm due to see on Monday. To be honest I don't know whether I'm coming or going!
 
Hi, I was diagnosed type 2 two years ago December. My symptoms were dizziness/light headedness, extreme thirst & frequent urination. I was diabetic during my pregnancies (my children are all now well into their 20's) & this was diet controlled. So, after diet failed I was put on Metformin, put up with the upset stomachs for almost a year until I could bear it no longer, then went on to modified released version which stopped the upset stomachs but made me feel dizzy/light headed like before diagnosis, I went to my doctor who told me that the medication wouldn't give me these symptoms & took me off them for a week to see how I felt off them, I felt better. I went back for my follow up appointment & my doctor was off ill so had to see another doctor who's response was 'if you feel ill off them then you may as well feel ill on them & there was no other choice but Metformin! Apparently I was diagnosed at a 'bad time' - no diabetic nurse until now, two of the treatment room nurses are training to become diabetic nurses, one of which I'm due to see on Monday. To be honest I don't know whether I'm coming or going!
Hi and welcome. @daisy1 will be along shortly with your welcome pack.

If you are still feeling metformin side effects, see a doctor and discuss stopping them because while helpful they are not always necessary. There are other meds to try, but changing your diet and exercising may be enough to reduce your blood glucose (BGs). I know you have tried this already, but if you were still eating starchy carbs like bread, potatoes, rice and pasta, then that may be why your BG didn't reduce enough.

Do you know what your most recent HbA1c blood test or fasting BG was? When you see the nurse, ask for blood tests for vitamin B12 and folate, as these levels can be low after taking metformin for a while. It's a good idea to get a BG testing meter for yourself too, either from your nurse (if you are lucky) or buying one yourself. I can give you details of a cheap one to buy later on.

What symptoms do you currently have?
 
@ju62

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful especially as far as diet and carbs are concerned. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thanks for replying. I am low carbing as much as possible, I don't eat potatoes & have cut rice & pasta from my diet, bread I have occasionally. I am awaiting hip surgery so exercise is limited, although I do go swimming using mainly my arms. I am roughly 6lb overweight but this fluctuates between 2 & 6lb. My latest hba1c was 69, cholesterol 4.2 & iron, B12, lipids, liver function & whatever else was tested is all fine.
 
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