Another new T2 on the block

TabbyL

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Hi there,

Diagnosed yesterday. T2, my H1a thingy was 91. Blood glucose was 16.5 (taken just before dinner).

I'm a bit shocked. I'm obese, have been for a long time, but lived in denial. Now my world is upside down and it's too late.

I'm taking metformin, been told to drastically change my lifestyle and "attack the blood sugar aggressively".

So, yeah. That's me.

Hello.
 

Devonbear

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Hi Tabby and welcome. Don't worry, it's not remotely too late. T2 is eminently fixable, particularly in people who have a lot of weight to lose.
Your HbA1C on diagnosis is on the high side, it's true. Mine was 59. But three months later it was 34 and it's stayed there for a further nine months. The key for most people, including me, seems to be to cut as much carbohydrate from your diet as possible. Now I don't know what you generally eat (although I guess you'll probably say "too much"), and a lot of people find the idea of no potato, no rice, no pasta hard to fathom. But if you can manage to shake off the "I just couldn't live without X" mentality about food, then there is definitely a path towards having normal blood sugar levels, even without medication.
 
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Echob

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Hello tabbyl,
I've had tris diagnosis for about 3 months, tried dieting , didn't work if I lost weight I then put on twice what I lost, got myself a glucose meter and was shocked by how high my readings were (highest to date was 22.3) generally my readings were between 11-15 , have started metformin and my average now is around 8 although am trying harder with healthy eating, I've lost 3lb in last few weeks so maybe cutting carbs is working or maybe it's metformin but like you I am obese (before children and giving up smoking was a size 8 not the size 18 I am today) hey ho onwards and downwards weight wise
 
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Don't give up you could have a word with your doctor or diabetes worker. Tell them you re thinking of going on a low carb diet to help you lose weight ask them if they would give you some advice to hep you lose weight. Babs
 
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Liam1955

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@TabbyL - Hello and Welcome to the Forum. :) @daisy1 will be along soon and will provide you with some basic information that all new members receive. Have good read on the threads and ask any questions you may have.
 
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daisy1

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@TabbyL

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information, mentioned above, which we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It will help you to follow a low carb way of eating which should help you to lower your levels. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Daibell

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Don't give up you could have a word with your doctor or diabetes worker. Tell them you re thinking of going on a low carb diet to help you lose weight ask them if they would give you some advice to hep you lose weight. Babs
Be aware that some medics don't agree with going low-carb and would prefer you to have a lot of carbs and gain weight and increase blood sugar! Do follow @daisy1's advice
 

joechristmas

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Hey Tabby and welcome to the forum. I had success with a friend by doing the following.

  1. Regular exercise. (He liked to get on an elliptical machine for 45 minutes per day).
  2. A low carb diet. He ate a Paleo diet for breakfast and dinner.
  3. Sleep in a room with blackout curtains
  4. Moderate alcohol consumption. He did well with one glass of red wine per night.
Diabetes is easier to control if you don't carry around a lot of excess weight. So, if you are overweight, it will help your diabetes to lose some weight
 

TabbyL

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Thanks all. Had a fbg of 15.8 this morning, down from 16.5 initially so I hope I'm getting there. Got a meter to check my levels too.

My darling mother in law has smugly told me she's "not surprised" that I'm T2. Apparently she's been telling everyone for years that I was heading this way. Never said it to my face though, and generally encouraged me to eat all the chocolate she didn't want for Christmas (which I did).

Nice, huh!
 

ickihun

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@TabbyL have a little peek in success stories. Even the most unlikely overweight person has lost weight with help from experienced type 2 overweight diabetics. I'm bigger than you by quite a bit and I'm losing now. Its took some working out but there is a dietary formula for everyone. It's trial and error. Ultimately carbs hold the key then not too much protein and eat fat but not with flour. Pasta, pastries and potatos are your enemy. They only belong in your diet in tiny portions very infrequently too. This will take away any sugary binges, if you suffer with them?
 

ickihun

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Thanks all. Had a fbg of 15.8 this morning, down from 16.5 initially so I hope I'm getting there. Got a meter to check my levels too.

My darling mother in law has smugly told me she's "not surprised" that I'm T2. Apparently she's been telling everyone for years that I was heading this way. Never said it to my face though, and generally encouraged me to eat all the chocolate she didn't want for Christmas (which I did).

Nice, huh!
@TabbyL take heart when you start losing weight and leave her older skin behind. She'll know it. There is a post somewhere which tells of sabotagers. Take heart and make your body healthier and fresher. You'll have the last laugh. :)
 
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TabbyL

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Thank you. I know she's right, but I didn't expect her to be so smug about it!


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