Potential Diabetic

AleksanderE

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Hello forum

My dad, his sister, my grandparents, my great granddad were/are all diabetic.
I am 199 cm, 115 kg with around 16% bodyfat. Decent shape. 29 years of age.
I’ve measured my fasting BG first thing in the morning 5 days in a row now.
Day1: 7.3 mmol/l
2: 7.2 mmol/l
3: 7.0 mmol/l
4: 7.3 mmol/l
5: 6.8 mmol/l

I have confirmed Dupuytren’s contracture in my left hand and had a higher blood pressure last couple of days.

Should I be worried? It doesn’t look good when I read on sites that a FBG above 7.0 is a criteria for confirmed diabetes. I got a doctor’s appointment this thursday.

Do I start changing my routines this instant?

Thanks in advance
 
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My advice would be to continue as you are until after the doctor's appointment. It's not long to wait and avoids the prospect of anything you do from upsetting what the doctor sees when you get there. There have been a couple of cases where the patients took such pre-emptive action that the doctor told them they were not diabetic when he tested them.

EDIT: Vis-a-vis your avatar. There is a good chance you will be amending it after Thursday.
 

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We cannot diagnose as we are not doctors. The fasting blood glucose reading is notoriously tricky. Yours look a tad high but it would benefit you to get a clearer picture if you test at meal times. You test before the first bite of food and then two hours after your first bite. The difference between the two readings should be no more than 2mmol. Do this and keep a diary of all your meals to show your GP.

Tagging @daisy1 who will give you an introduction pack. Make sure that you keep note of any tests you have and the results. The more information you have then the more the members can help. Good luck.
 

AleksanderE

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EDIT: Vis-a-vis your avatar. There is a good chance you will be amending it after Thursday.[/QUOTE]

So you’re implying that I probably wont get good news? Doesn’t look good, right?
 
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EDIT: Vis-a-vis your avatar. There is a good chance you will be amending it after Thursday.
So you’re implying that I probably wont get good news? Doesn’t look good, right?

It doesn't look bad, well not very bad but I think you won't get out of there without a prescription. I presume you are going to have an Hba1c test done. That will decide it.
 

Bluetit1802

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T2 diabetes is no longer diagnosed on a fasting blood test alone. In fact my surgery doesn't do them at all, even on non-diabetics at routine health checks. It is the HbA1c test that counts (or an oral glucose tolerance test if that is what your GP prefers). The finger pricks are just a snapshot of what you are at the time. The HbA1c measures a sort of average of your glucose levels over a past period of 2 to 3 months. If this test comes out borderline or is not very much above the cut off point, it should be followed by a second HbA1c to confirm the first. So whatever you do between now and your blood test will have little impact.
 

AleksanderE

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But I’ve read that the disease itself comes pretty acute. If I’ve only had high blood sugar for a week, then my test will show a normal blood sugar level, right? So a test in 2-3 months will actually be the real diagnosis?
I am buying more test strips this afternoon to try one before a meal and one 2 hours after.
Anything else I can try?
 

Bluetit1802

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Type 1 comes on very quickly but is usually associated with extremely high levels and plenty of symptoms. Type 2 comes on very slowly - over years sometimes, and often without any symptoms.

You are just going to have to wait to see your doctor I'm afraid.
 

daisy1

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@AleksanderE

Hello Aleksander and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 259,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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AleksanderE

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@AleksanderE

Hello Aleksander and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be

Thanks for the welcome,@daisy1
I’m not currently diagnosed and not sure if I will be. I just find my high FBG numbers unusual and scary - especially considering that I work out 5 days a week and usually eat healthy. Unfortunately i ran out of test strips this morning, so my curiosty will be tested until my trip to the doctor this thursday. How do you think it’ll end up with the numbers posted in the initial post?
 

fletchweb

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Hello forum

My dad, his sister, my grandparents, my great granddad were/are all diabetic.
I am 199 cm, 115 kg with around 16% bodyfat. Decent shape. 29 years of age.
I’ve measured my fasting BG first thing in the morning 5 days in a row now.
Day1: 7.3 mmol/l
2: 7.2 mmol/l
3: 7.0 mmol/l
4: 7.3 mmol/l
5: 6.8 mmol/l

I have confirmed Dupuytren’s contracture in my left hand and had a higher blood pressure last couple of days.

Should I be worried? It doesn’t look good when I read on sites that a FBG above 7.0 is a criteria for confirmed diabetes. I got a doctor’s appointment this thursday.

Do I start changing my routines this instant?

Thanks in advance
I would wait for your doctor's prognosis, chances are the doctor will get you to do a Hemoglobin A1C to measure if you're Blood Glucose Levels have been riding on the high of normal for a while.

But to keep things in perspective - if it is diabetes - it would appear you have caught it early. I say this because many untreated diabetics often hit the 20s in the BG range prior to being diagnosed and also have experienced weight loss.

The fact that you have family members who have lived with the condition should be helpful in at least adjusting your diet if that is necessary.

Good Luck and hopefully it's nothing too serious!
 
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