Newly confused

Mikeyb922

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
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Most of what I’m supposed to eat
hi Everyone

Hope you are all well.

I was told a few weeks ago I was “high risk” having scored a 42 on the test. So I decided to start testing my blood to get an understanding of what it’s doing and my results seem to indicate type 2 as I’m frequently higher than normal level.

Most mornings I’m 7+ on the self test and then through the day it fluctuates between 5.8-8.

I’m still trying to understand what diabetes is, how I can deal with it and what I can do to reduce its impact on my life.

I’ve got a bit of a back story as I’ve been ill for the last 2 years almost with fatigue, losing weight and having blood problems which I am sure have lead to this as it’s my hemoglobin levels that are low.

What do you do to keep your levels in check and stop the post meal tiredness.
 

Bluetit1802

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Type of diabetes
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Hello and welcome,

An HbA1c of 42 is only 1 point over the cut off from non-diabetic to "at risk" pre-diabetes. I see from your avatar that you have made your status "Type 2". At the moment you are not T2. You are pre-diabetic. You can change this in your profile settings.

Non-standard red blood cells can cause inaccurate HbA1c results. Depending on the cause, this could be a falsely elevated or falsely lowered HbA1c. Illness, stress, other medications and a variety of similar things can cause raised blood sugar levels.

Post meal tiredness is normally due to high blood sugars, but there are other reasons. You will find that the vast majority of us here keep our numbers in check by reducing our carbohydrate consumption. All carbs turn to sugar once inside the system, so it makes sense not to eat too many. It isn't just a matter of eliminating the obvious sugar, cakes, biscuits etc.

Use your meter to guide you. It is a good plan to keep a detailed food diary including portion sizes, then test immediately before you eat and 2 hours after first bite. Look at the difference between the before and after figures. If there is a rise of more than 2mmol/l (preferably less) there were too many carbs in that meal. You could record these levels alongside the food eaten, and then look for patterns. Your personal danger foods will soon become clear, as will your safe foods. The ones most likely to cause concern are bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, breakfast cereals and fruit. If you eat these you may find you have to reduce the amount or even eliminate some, but your meter will guide you.

Have a good read round, and ask as many questions as you like,

I am tagging @daisy1 who has a very useful post for newcomers.
 

There is no Spoon

Well-Known Member
Messages
717
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
I’m still trying to understand what diabetes is, how I can deal with it

Hi Mikey
I know it's all very confusing at the start there is so much information overload its hard to know where to start.

OK very basic understanding of our condition. :bookworm:
  1. Our body can't handle sugar.
  2. Muscles are Insulin Resistant.
  3. Liver is clogged with too much fat
1. Stop eating sugar. and reduce carbohydrates, will lower blood sugar.
2. Exercise will reduce IR in muscles.
3. 1 + 2 will lead to weight loss which will drain the liver of fat.
1+2+ 3 = Diabetes is now reversed. Job done.

What is Insulin Resistance IR?
Any food we eat it turned into sugar in our bodies to use as fuel to power the muscles or turn into Fat.
IR means usual through lack of exercise our muscles don't need the fuel so it sloshes around in our blood thus high blood sugar until it can be turned into fat by the liver.

Why is high blood sugar bad?:nurse:
Simply put it means you blood is thicker because of the high blood sugar (bg).
This put a strain on the heart pumping this thick gloopy blood around the body, which causes a whole heap of problems.

Why is fruit bad?
Your body splits fruit in to 2 forms of sugar about 50% it sent round you body to be absorbed by muscles and the other 50% is sent to your liver to deal with puts a lot of extra work on our livers.:meh:

Check out this website for loads of good advice on what to eat when your going low carb.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

Hope that helps ;)
:bag:
 

Mikeyb922

Member
Messages
7
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
Most of what I’m supposed to eat
It didn’t have pre diabetic on the list when signing up to be honest so I just chose one but seen it’s there as an option now so changed it

I’ve got other issues going on but the dr told me I was high risk and needed to monitor closely and take action - scare tactic maybe?

In the last 10 months I’ve lost 20kg, from a 40” waist to a 36” with a belt on but can’t quite squeeze into a 34” but I haven’t really been trying to lose weight I only started exercising a little over a month ago.

At the moment anything I eat makes me feel like I could have a little snooze which is ok on a day off but on a Work day is a bit tricky.

I’ll start keeping a diary of what I’m eating and associate the levels with it though I still need to read up and understand what I should be eating to reduce the numbers.

Will have a look around the site and see what I need to do

Thanks
 

daisy1

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
@Mikeyb922

Hello Mikey and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will try to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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stephenlopez

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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First of all, you came here at the right time because you aren't diabetic yet. Your HbA1c of 42 shows that you have pre-diabetes which in future can possibly turn into diabetes. This is the right time to start caring of your condition. I wish I'd checkup at the right time before I developed diabetes. However, I can still try to help you with the condition.

Well, first of all you need to make changes to your diet and make a nutrition chart to make sure that you are low on carbs. Why? Well because the carbs consumed by you get converted into glucose and because of diabetes your body isn't able to convert that glucose into energy, resulting in increased blood sugar levels which can surely be harmful for your life.

Also, you need to make changes to your everyday lifestyle. This includes an exercise routine. Because surely exercise will help you get back to normal. Also, I follow this blog when it comes to maintain my blood sugar levels https://zovon.com/home-remedies/general-health/diabetes-home-remedies/ It is working for me as my last HbA1c was 50 which is much better than when I was diagnosed, i.e. 57. So, Yes, this might help you. Also, you can also start with a keto diet plan as I've been following it from last 3 weeks and it's been pretty amazing for me.
 
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Mikeyb922

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
Most of what I’m supposed to eat
First of all, you came here at the right time because you aren't diabetic yet. Your HbA1c of 42 shows that you have pre-diabetes which in future can possibly turn into diabetes. This is the right time to start caring of your condition. I wish I'd checkup at the right time before I developed diabetes. However, I can still try to help you with the condition.

Well, first of all you need to make changes to your diet and make a nutrition chart to make sure that you are low on carbs. Why? Well because the carbs consumed by you get converted into glucose and because of diabetes your body isn't able to convert that glucose into energy, resulting in increased blood sugar levels which can surely be harmful for your life.

Also, you need to make changes to your everyday lifestyle. This includes an exercise routine. Because surely exercise will help you get back to normal. Also, I follow this blog when it comes to maintain my blood sugar levels https://zovon.com/home-remedies/general-health/diabetes-home-remedies/ It is working for me as my last HbA1c was 50 which is much better than when I was diagnosed, i.e. 57. So, Yes, this might help you. Also, you can also start with a keto diet plan as I've been following it from last 3 weeks and it's been pretty amazing for me.

Thanks for the information.

Hopefully I can turn things back in the right direction before it’s too late.