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roym0762

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Hi been diagnosed with type 2 for approx 18 months and I'm struggling with what to eat and how much.

Plus I work 4X 12 hour shifts then 4 days off,so establishing an eating pattern is a nightmare.

I'm 44.5'3 and 13St,I just want to control my blood sugar and get healthy so I see my kids grow up.
 
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catherinecherub

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Hi and welcome to the forum.

@daisy1 will be along soon to give you some basic information which should help you.
 

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@roym0762

Hello Roy and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I think it should help you to get better levels. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Patricia21

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Hi and welcome.
Lots of help and advice.
Read round the posts.
 

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Hi Roy and welcome.

Do you have a BG meter? What sort of figures are you getting?
 

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Hi been diagnosed with type 2 for approx 18 months and I'm struggling with what to eat and how much.

Plus I work 4X 12 hour shifts then 4 days off,so establishing an eating pattern is a nightmare.

I'm 44.5'3 and 13St,I just want to control my blood sugar and get healthy so I see my kids grow up.

I did shifts for thirty years and that was before I was diagnosed.
You will have to discover what you can take to eat, for your carry out. I would recommend boxed salads. You can vary the protein with it. Low carb bread for the odd sarnie. It is a minefield and not easy, I tend now to eat something filling before I start and eat little bites and have something more substantial when I finish, I do the odd 12 hour shift and the longer I work the less I eat! I'm afraid it's trial and error, especially to test in work.
 
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roym0762

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@roym0762

Hello Roy and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I think it should help you to get better levels. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Hi Roy and welcome.

Do you have a BG meter? What sort of figures are you getting?

Despite repeated requests,my gp won't give me a meter.
 

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Despite repeated requests,my gp won't give me a meter.
Unfortunately, that's the NHS for you. I really admire the way they look after you but on diabetes they are so wrong. You do need to know what your blood glucose levels are. And the only way to find out is by testing.
Can you afford to supply your own. There is a link that hopefully someone will give you. I've moved this thread back to see if they can give you the link.
I've tagged @Robinredbreast , to see if he can help.
 

roym0762

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Unfortunately, that's the NHS for you. I really admire the way they look after you but on diabetes they are so wrong. You do need to know what your blood glucose levels are. And the only way to find out is by testing.
Can you afford to supply your own. There is a link that hopefully someone will give you. I've moved this thread back to see if they can give you the link.
I've tagged @Robinredbreast , to see if he can help.

I've got a doctor's appointment on Tuesday,so will ask again,thanks for your help.
 
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Unfortunately, that's the NHS for you. I really admire the way they look after you but on diabetes they are so wrong. You do need to know what your blood glucose levels are. And the only way to find out is by testing.
Can you afford to supply your own. There is a link that hopefully someone will give you. I've moved this thread back to see if they can give you the link.
I've tagged @Robinredbreast , to see if he can help.

Hi I found this for you, it may help, but I'm sure another person could help much better, ps I'm female :)
Good luck and all the best RRB
/www.google.co.uk/webhp?source=search_app&gfe_rd=cr&ei=iUYxVdPOE8Oq8wf48oHABw&gws_rd=ssl#q=how+to+get+a+blood+glucose+meter+for+type+2+diabetes
 
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Mongolia

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Any ideas as to what I can eat for snacks?had swapped crisps for grapes but that seems to be am even worse choice.
I snack on nuts, olives, cheese, berries and the odd square of 85% chocolate:) Also occasionally make choc chip cookies using almond flour, sweetener and 85% choc. Put them in the freezer and take out one at a time to prevent eating the whole lot!
 
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oskanoears

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Hi Roy,

What breaks do you get and for how long?
 

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Hi @roym0762 & welcome to the forum.

I may not be for you but I do from time to time have to make snacks for me.

You don't need a large box for this.

2 x ryvita normal ones.
Tub of Philadelphia Cheese for spreading.
Smoked salmon to put on top. Or Ham or any cooked meat to give a variety.
Some Olives fresh from Tesco's Waitrose etc & small plumb or ordinary tom's
1 knife for spreading. You cannot put the philli on the ryvita early as they go like bendy cardboard

OR
2 x ryvita
1 chunk of butter for spreading
Some slices of cheese for the topping or all the meats that have been suggested even some pate's are OK

If it's Bread try either the Linseed Soya Bergen or Hovis Seed Sensations there between 12 & 14 carbs per slice but you may only be able to manage 1 slice, depends how active you are at work.

As a good portion control snacking food is the Baby Bel cheeses.

You can also try a 9bar, they are about 13carbs per bar, but do not seem to spike many. they are very nutty with chocolate.

You do need to test all these foods it will then tell you what you can eat you will feel more comfortable then when you pack foods up

Hope this helps.:)
Neil
 
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roym0762

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Hi @roym0762 & welcome to the forum.

I may not be for you but I do from time to time have to make snacks for me.

You don't need a large box for this.

2 x ryvita normal ones.
Tub of Philadelphia Cheese for spreading.
Smoked salmon to put on top. Or Ham or any cooked meat to give a variety.
Some Olives fresh from Tesco's Waitrose etc & small plumb or ordinary tom's
1 knife for spreading. You cannot put the philli on the ryvita early as they go like bendy cardboard

OR
2 x ryvita
1 chunk of butter for spreading
Some slices of cheese for the topping or all the meats that have been suggested even some pate's are OK

If it's Bread try either the Linseed Soya Bergen or Hovis Seed Sensations there between 12 & 14 carbs per slice but you may only be able to manage 1 slice, depends how active you are at work.

As a good portion control snacking food is the Baby Bel cheeses.

You can also try a 9bar, they are about 13carbs per bar, but do not seem to spike many. they are very nutty with chocolate.

You do need to test all these foods it will then tell you what you can eat you will feel more comfortable then when you pack foods up

Hope this helps.:)
Neil


Thank you,I'm really starting to realise how poor my food choices are,who would have thought cheese was better than grapes☺
 
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