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    Defatizing with Optislim by Patch

    I just re-read the original report from Newcastle. They did some kind of 'clamping' test, which apparently involves strapping in the subjects for two hours and intravenously administering both insulin and glucose. They know how much glucose to administer because they test their BS every 5-10...
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    This 600kcal thing

    Yeah, the shakes are just about OK now. But I make sure I've got some olives and red pepper slices on hand to put some real flavor in my mouth. I reckon I could easily put away a big mac. Years of training, don't you know.
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    Defatizing with Optislim by Patch

    Patch, you're testing your BS a heck of a lot. You must look like a pin cushion. Keep it going my man.
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    Defatizing with Herbalife by Kenny

    DAY 8 Firstly, let me say I'm enormously proud of myself, indeed smug, to have actually completed the first 7 days. Today has been another good day, decent-ish energy, the mildest of aches. Skipped breakfast and had the leftovers of yesterday's french onion soup for lunch. Snacked a very few...
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    Defatizing with Herbalife by Kenny

    BS after 7 days Just woke up. BS is 108, down from 173. That's 6.0 down from 9.6 for youse all using old-fashioned metrics. Given the old dawn syndrome thingey, I would probably have had a lower reading if I'd wandered around for half an hour before testing. Is that cheating?
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    Defatizing with Herbalife by Kenny

    DAY 7 Today has not been quite as good as yesterday. I haven't had any aches and pains, but this evening I'm having craving for food... Big Mac,fries and coke to be exact. What with all my gourmet food (french onion soup hoho...) I think I might have exceeded 800 calories today. Not by much...
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    Defatizing with Herbalife by Kenny

    minitata (miniature potato?), I tend to agree with you. Today I had just the one herbalife shake, but I had all their other stuff, active fiber nonsense and multivits and other supplements. Food wise I've had red pepper, mushroom, olives, cherry tomatoes, and a small bowl of freshly made french...
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    Defatizing with Herbalife by Kenny

    Yes I agree with you totally about the fact that I have to get to normal weight. 8 weeks is just the beginning. I think a low calorie diet with exercise (maybe 1000 calories) will become a permanent feature until I get to my target weight of 76Kg. Weighed in this morning at 108, so only 32Kg to...
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    This 600kcal thing

    Thanks for the advice, buddy. I'll contact my distributor. Re other stuff, I absolutely ADORE green olives and red peppers and mushrooms and cherry tomatoes, all stuff that is allowed on this diet. I tell you, I could live quite happily on salads, and the calorie restriction makes those healthy...
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    Defatizing with Optislim by Patch

    Good luck, buddy.
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    Defatizing with Herbalife by Kenny

    DAY 6 Okay, I'm going to have to rename this project "Defatizing with delicious gourmet food by Kenny". I can't stand those shakes, so I'm making minute portions of delicious treats, like olives and red peppers and cherry tomatoes. Last night was horrendous. Went to bed at midnight, woke at...
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    Defatizing with Herbalife by Kenny

    Yes, I read the report too... but the problem I have is that Herbalife shakes have become nauseous to me. So either I eat something else within 600 cals, or I stop the diet, or I eat nothing at all. Is cheese that bad? It contains protein and fat, not carbs.
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    Defatizing with Herbalife by Kenny

    DAY 5 sugar2... I am CURING my diabetes. I refuse to hear anything else. Just watch me. This morning felt terrible, headache, body aching, lethargic. Went back to bed and slept/tossed & turned until 2pm. For breakfast I had a tiny bowl of bran flakes with milk. Managed to down a herbalife...
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    Defatizing with Optislim by Patch

    You're the man, Patch! Keep it up.
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    This 600kcal thing

    Yeah, I've got vanilla lol! I actually managed to get a shake down me today. That was lunch! It was made a little better and more palatable by using soy milk instead of dairy.
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    This 600kcal thing

    I couldn't stand to eat a shake this morning. I carefully measured out some bran flakes with milk... about the same calories as the shake, but not much protein alas.
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    This 600kcal thing

    I'm using herbalife because I decided to try the diet before I actually read the paper to find out what diet they were following. And my wife knows a herbalife distributor. Man, I can't stand the herbalife shake... I hope this feeling doesn't last, coz it was very expensive.
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    Will YOU ask your Dr for the 600 cal diet

    Take heart. I followed this link and read the rant. She seems to have omitted to actually read the research paper properly. The researchers were not testing a diet. They were measuring fat content of the liver and pancreas. After 12 weeks of resumption of a normal diet, excess fat had NOT...
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    Defatizing with Herbalife by Kenny

    DAY 4 Woke up this morning with light pink fingernails, but I didn't eat for two hours... I think I got a liver dump coz my fingernails turned redder. I then had a herbalife shake. I'm having trouble with the herbalife shake. The first time I drank it I thought it was delicious. I now dread...
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    This 600kcal thing

    When I said 'All fat' I meant 'all excess fat'. That is to say that the fat content of the liver and pancreas returned to normal levels, same as the control group. Insulin production of the pancreas shot up after 7 days to near normal levels, and continued to rise gradually during the rest of...
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